#OHLQ #BuffaloTrace Drop and Old Grand-Dad Spectacular; Ep. 65

Unknown (0:09): Urban Bass and beyond. Pull it up, play it strong, sip slow, not still young. We're just getting started. Oh, yeah. Bourbon brass and beyond.

Speaker 1 (0:41): Afternoon. Good evening. Welcome to Bourbon Brass and Beyond. How's everybody tonight? Tonight, we are joined by a special guest, Michael Barkat.

Speaker 1 (0:50): He's back in the area and retiring. Is it retiring?

Speaker 2 (0:56): Not quite. Just they call it separating if you don't do all 20. Okay.

Speaker 1 (1:01): Okay. But, so another Bourbon fan, fellow trumpet player. It

Speaker 3 (1:09): You're gonna be concert after this. Stay for the second episode. Yeah. Not me.

Speaker 1 (1:14): But but he brought over some things and to compare, and we're doing old granddad.

Unknown Speaker (1:21): We got a little bit of things to mix in here. So

Unknown Speaker (1:24): You know? Who wants to do the honors? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:26): Go ahead. It's on your side.

Unknown Speaker (1:28): I I I spill stuff when I

Unknown Speaker (1:29): That's a

Unknown Speaker (1:30): great point. Nobody wants you spilling. I spill. Oh, I didn't there's

Unknown Speaker (1:33): no ice spill that far back.

Unknown Speaker (1:34): So what do we got? Old granddad's seven. No. No. I did

Speaker 3 (1:38): I spilled everywhere. I'm worse than you. Typical hunter proof. It's the I'm gonna use this as compared to everything else, this is the regular bottle. Is that what we're gonna call this?

Speaker 1 (1:47): Yeah. Bottled in Bond, classical granddad, age seven years.

Unknown Speaker (1:53): It's got a really oaky smell on it already.

Unknown Speaker (1:55): I always say with old granddad, you're gonna

Unknown Speaker (1:57): get the peanut. You know, you're always gonna

Unknown Speaker (1:58): get a peanut smell, but there it is. I have I have a 1976 bottled in bond. Okay. And that to me is just

Unknown Speaker (2:08): fantastic. I,

Speaker 1 (2:09): but once you drink that, you're like, all right,

Unknown Speaker (2:12): now you could ever drink

Unknown Speaker (2:13): it first. You have to do that. Yeah. Getting shocked. Nice.

Unknown Speaker (2:17): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (2:18): Get the peanut on the palate. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not that it's there.

Speaker 3 (2:24): It's a great drink. Yeah. Listen, this is what a $30 $35 bottle. This is their normal shelf for.

Speaker 2 (2:32): And I think so they have some with the seven year age statement and then just the normal bottled and bond. I think what I've found is there's not a huge difference between the two. There really isn't a huge price difference either, but if you can't find the seven year near you, the bottled in bond is just as good. Damn good tracker too.

Speaker 1 (2:56): You know, we laugh because that 76, I think it had a price tag on it of like

Unknown Speaker (3:01): Yeah. A dollar 47. Something stupid. Yeah. It was more than that, but it was literally like a shockingly low amount.

Speaker 3 (3:10): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (3:13): Not a long finish, but not not bad. I'd say I'd say it's a a medium finish. Yeah. This is one of those deals.

Unknown Speaker (3:20): You know? Like It's a little astringent y, but, I mean, all in all, like, to your point, think it is a good pour. I think it's a nice something to step on and

Speaker 1 (3:27): that's nice. So last night, God, here we go. So emails came out this week that OHLQ was doing this big drop Buffalo Trace special event drop in three locations in the state. It was going to be Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday in Cincinnati, Wednesday in Aurora,

Unknown Speaker (3:48): Ohio, Cleveland,

Speaker 1 (3:49): Cleveland area, and then Thursday in Columbus. So I was gonna go up. We I thought we were gonna have a number of people going up, but this ended up

Speaker 3 (3:58): being Schedules work out as schedules do.

Speaker 1 (4:00): Yep. So Bob comes over. We're gone. We're we're out of here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (4:06): You know? We get there.

Unknown Speaker (4:08): No sooner do we get out of the car. Were you pissed at me? Like, I was pissed at myself. I wasn't pissed. Was actually

Speaker 1 (4:14): I I felt bad. Yeah. You know? Like, I I felt bad that I get out of the car,

Unknown Speaker (4:20): and usually it's like one of the things I just do. You know how you check your pockets when you get out of it to go anywhere? I didn't have my ID with me. No. Usually, when I get out when I go to leave the house, I grab my keys and my ID, we go.

Unknown Speaker (4:31): Yeah. Because you're driving. You know? You need your wallet.

Unknown Speaker (4:33): You drove. Didn't think to grab my keys.

Unknown Speaker (4:35): Guess what? I forgot right along with it.

Speaker 3 (4:37): Yep. So we drove all the way up there. It's my own fault. It's my own stupid fault. At the end, we always talk about there's plenty of good bourbon around here.

Speaker 3 (4:49): There's plenty of bad bourbon you can find. Half of the time we do this, it's because the people you talk to and the peep and we ended up having great conversations, plus or minus five people in either direction of us the entire time. I still had a good trip. I got to see you lose. Right.

Unknown Speaker (5:05): Twice. Twice.

Unknown Speaker (5:06): Well, twice.

Speaker 3 (5:07): So that was the nice part. I actually yeah.

Unknown Speaker (5:09): So it was what it was.

Unknown Speaker (5:10): So they they drew 105 names, 105 bottles. There was, like, five OFCs.

Speaker 3 (5:17): There was one Eagle 30 or 25.

Speaker 1 (5:19): One Eagle 25. There were, I don't know, ten, twelve maybe. Double Eagles. Double Eagle, very rare. Whatever.

Unknown Speaker (5:27): The twenty year?

Unknown Speaker (5:28): Blanton Gold.

Unknown Speaker (5:30): So there

Speaker 3 (5:33): there was was the raffle, but they had some what did they call them? Something bottles that they were selling beforehand. If you got there early and you were number one in line, you got to go into the store and select from the bottles they had there. Yeah. Oh, jeez.

Speaker 3 (5:46): So there was the raffle plus some extra stuff sitting around there.

Speaker 1 (5:49): And it was foolproof? Proof, stag. There was the the two Myers

Speaker 3 (5:54): Rums finished in Willy Larue Weller. Antique. Weller antique.

Unknown Speaker (5:59): And then Special Reserve. Special Reserve. Something else on there too, wasn't there? Traveler full

Unknown Speaker (6:04): proof.

Unknown Speaker (6:05): Oh, yeah. Traveler full proof.

Unknown Speaker (6:06): Yeah. So

Unknown Speaker (6:08): There was nothing else there. So it so there were bottles that if you were one of the first 700, I think they said, right, people in line, you you were had the ability to purchase one of those bottles. None of them was crazy special. I mean, I could probably we could have bought 10 reds if we wanted to this week at the store. You know I mean, Mike?

Speaker 3 (6:26): So but if you don't normally see that stuff and you can make it out of work on a Thursday evening, you work yourself or Thursday afternoon works out pretty well

Unknown Speaker (6:35): for you, I guess. Right.

Speaker 1 (6:36): Right. And so they they drew all the names, but the last group, I mean, there were people that kept turning down the double Eagle, very rare because it was $2,500 So then they had said, all right, we've got four bottles left. Everybody else was leaving. They said, high rollers, let's go. And they gave us all new raffle tickets

Unknown Speaker (6:54): if you wanted them.

Speaker 1 (6:55): So I don't know. 20 people? Five? Maybe more?

Speaker 3 (6:59): I think there might have been more. I actually was really knew there was four bottles, and I was surprised at how many people signed up for it. I think there was probably 50.

Speaker 1 (7:10): So a bunch of us put in new raffle tickets, and then I lost that too.

Unknown Speaker (7:15): We're actually crossing their fingers that they wouldn't win. They just wanted to feel good by putting it

Unknown Speaker (7:20): the morning. The FOMO was serious. I was like, I need to win something today.

Speaker 1 (7:23): People were thinking, how am I gonna explain this?

Speaker 3 (7:25): Correct. Can I hide my credit card bill this month? Yeah. I honestly again, even though I wasn't entered, frustratingly, I still thought it was a nice event. I actually was a little I still think they are picking those stores because they have the biggest parking lots.

Unknown Speaker (7:40): That was a small liquor store.

Unknown Speaker (7:42): And they and they had they had blocked almost everything. Entrance and access to I mean, it was so You could

Speaker 3 (7:48): there was probably, what, five or six businesses on either side of that liquor store, let alone was there a Kroger? It was I forget what that Mark's. Mark's. You those stores were shut down because during that time.

Unknown Speaker (8:01): I don't think they wanted to.

Speaker 3 (8:02): Well, oh, you oh, you couldn't I I saw a poor woman with a child carrying a pizza and something else that she had to I'm sure she had to park two miles away from to be able to get it. Yeah. So it was a whole thing. I'm curious to see how many people show up tonight for theirs or for Columbus. I think this one was bigger than Cincinnati.

Speaker 3 (8:21): We did the math on what the first number to win was, what the last number to win was. And I think we assumed there was somewhere between twenty two and twenty five hundred people. Right? So 105 bottles across 2,500 people. Your odds ain't great.

Speaker 3 (8:36): So

Speaker 1 (8:37): Yeah. But people around us I was twenty nine thirty six. The closest number that caught called was twenty nine thirty two.

Unknown Speaker (8:45): Okay. Missed it by that much. Yeah. Somebody was four people in front of us in line or something. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (8:52): I will say it wasn't very organized for that stuff. Like, there was just people haphazardly passing out tickets everywhere. Again, trying to crowd manage 2,200 people at a liquor store is probably not easy. Virginia did something similar a couple of weeks ago. And they just

Speaker 2 (9:07): called it spiritspalooza, but it was a three day event where each day they would have drops. About thirty minutes before the drop online on their ABC website. You would see what each store would have. And so the store near the Navy base had a STAG 26 a, and then usually they had a lot of, like, well, they're special reserve, but you knew some lists were just like three or four, and it was just like plantains, Eagle, rare traveler. And then other ones I had been coming up from Charlotte.

Speaker 2 (9:44): I popped in and it had one liter Weller 12, Weller foolproof, which you don't see Yeah. The in Virginia. It's interesting when I lived there, Blanton's buffalo trace Eagle Rare every Monday would drop. Oh, wow. And so now, you know, there's only six Blantens, but if you're persistent enough and you go to three or four, you can pretty regularly get Blantens.

Speaker 2 (10:11): But even special reserve, unheard of Yeah. In the state of Virginia, which I thought was really interesting. Welcome back to Ohio. Yeah. And so it was and I think it's interesting how two different states It's

Unknown Speaker (10:25): one of the things we

Speaker 2 (10:25): were talking about last night. The liquor agencies approach these drops very differently because you had people they even said in their social media posts, like, be respectful because people were camping out from 04:30 in the morning until they open, but it wasn't a raffle situation. It was sort of like a first come, first serve. But if you're gonna camp out, you had to hope that that ABC had something you wanted because it might not.

Speaker 3 (10:48): I think there's there are some drops that happen here like that. I think that like this one, they didn't tell anybody about the bottles they released ahead of time. They didn't announce any of that. So, I mean

Unknown Speaker (10:57): Well, the last week. Well,

Unknown Speaker (10:58): okay. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (10:59): They put out the email picture, and they went through it. Of the extras?

Speaker 3 (11:03): Not of the extras. No. That's what yeah. Just the special. The the the raffle bottles they released, but not the like, you we showed up and, technically, I guess, we didn't know that there was anything more than the 105 bottles that were there.

Speaker 3 (11:14): Right. They had another 700 hiding that they gave away to the those people. So to your point, the people who got there early still because I I we didn't end up with anything off of the

Unknown Speaker (11:24): No. And we

Unknown Speaker (11:25): first round.

Unknown Speaker (11:26): We got there at 04:30. Now the event wasn't supposed to start till five.

Unknown Speaker (11:30): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:30): And they were gonna collect tickets from five to 06:30, then that's 06:30. They're gonna draw the first drawing. But yeah, we were there about three hours too late.

Unknown Speaker (11:41): Yeah. Yeah. Well, well, you know, you're

Unknown Speaker (11:44): right because by the time we made it in, it was literally just special reserve and some rum left. So

Unknown Speaker (11:48): Rum finishing WLW barrels. Yeah. So, but we were

Unknown Speaker (11:57): talking about this last night. I don't know if I'd do it again.

Unknown Speaker (11:59): I would. Yeah. You know?

Speaker 3 (12:01): I'm not in the market for a double eagle very rare. A, there were about three bottles in the middle, two bottles in the middle that I would have liked to have had, and my chances are five bottles out of so I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (12:14): You know?

Speaker 3 (12:15): I Yeah. I'm a little spoiled. Let's I mean, I have a CYPB. I have a single barrel, So I have some of that other stuff that's out there. But do I I mean, I wouldn't be sad about another, but it's not something I

Speaker 1 (12:26): the last choice, and we can pick it up at MSRP.

Unknown Speaker (12:28): Yeah. You never pass it at MSRP. Yeah. That's true.

Speaker 1 (12:31): So I I I figured, but it's still a great experience because then you're just bullshitting about bourbon.

Unknown Speaker (12:37): Again, it comes back to people stand in line with again, yeah, I agree. Yeah. The guy that was standing behind us was

Unknown Speaker (12:41): legit.

Unknown Speaker (12:42): I had a good

Unknown Speaker (12:42): time with him. So You want another glass?

Unknown Speaker (12:45): Yeah. Yeah. I'm gonna hold this. I just wanna hold this one to come back to compare it to everything.

Unknown Speaker (12:49): You want another glass or you good?

Unknown Speaker (12:50): I'm good

Unknown Speaker (12:50): with this. Thank you. I like one middle guy. Step up.

Speaker 1 (12:55): This is the old granddad one fourteen. This is well, it'd be a small batch. Right?

Unknown Speaker (13:01): Mhmm. Mhmm. I got

Unknown Speaker (13:01): that too. But See,

Unknown Speaker (13:03): you gotta commit to this. Thank god for Bartels. I got more Bartels. If I if I wet one up completely, we're in trouble.

Speaker 1 (13:11): See, now that I I like the nose on this one. It's that caramel. Yeah. I don't get as much of the astringent

Unknown Speaker (13:19): Yeah. I agree with that.

Unknown Speaker (13:21): On this.

Unknown Speaker (13:22): Well

Unknown Speaker (13:22): And

Speaker 3 (13:23): I I think I guess they both been open. Asleep. Right? Yeah. When these these ones have been sneaky good.

Speaker 3 (13:29): Right? Like, these these ones are ones that have like this one for sure, that have just come out and I feel gained more popularity, whatever you wanna call that thing. They have they've become more and more popular is my take. But, yes, sleeper.

Unknown Speaker (13:45): Taste the proof on it, though.

Speaker 2 (13:47): A lot of deeper flavor comes with the proof.

Speaker 3 (13:50): Go back to that. Tell me the nose doesn't smell much better on this one now. Oh, it does.

Speaker 1 (13:55): Yeah. It does. Go figure. Well, you you just smelled a one fourteen. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:02): And I guess you're right. Yeah. So now you're not gonna get

Unknown Speaker (14:04): all the flavors out of because I'm 100 pulling it from this. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (14:08): So you're probably just getting out.

Speaker 3 (14:10): So we should start at the higher proof of worth our way down. Maybe. Don't blow me out on that one. I get more

Unknown Speaker (14:16): of a rye on the one fourteen. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (14:18): Very peppery. Yeah. Very.

Speaker 2 (14:20): And this was an impulse buy. I have so many friends that are just like, oh, G D one fourteen. That's my go to and I was down in west Virginia. My great aunt had her 90 birthday. Nice.

Speaker 2 (14:31): Found out a couple of distant cousins were also into bourbon. And usually I pack a go bag if I have a couple friends with me that I know will have a sip, but I didn't bring it with me this time. And so I was like, well, there's liquor store, like six minutes away on the way back to the house after the party. And I stopped there and, you know, West Virginia is not price controlled. So they had they had like a $17.92 bottled in bond for like $80, which like, those are 40 down Virginia MSRP.

Speaker 2 (15:00): They're fine. I enjoy it. But I went over and saw the good OGD one fourteen right at price because they, you know, they just assume it's nothing. Yeah. Took that over.

Speaker 2 (15:12): And so at the end, I was like, oh, does anyone wanna take this home with them? But everyone else was flying but me. So I was like, well, I guess I accidentally bought another bottle. By my window. I'm sad about it.

Speaker 3 (15:21): Yeah. Yeah. That one's got peppery. It's like Yeah. And it's almost like green pepper is like the way I Yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:29): Yeah. And it is a high rye match. So it's not dirty. Says.

Unknown Speaker (15:34): No. Wrong one. If you're I mean, I guess you say all made match people's same. Yeah. Guess.

Unknown Speaker (15:39): Right.

Unknown Speaker (15:39): Prohibition era bourbons. Doesn't say.

Unknown Speaker (15:41): So question. Damn. No.

Unknown Speaker (15:44): I don't. Here's here's the picture of. Is it like Trivia. Trivia.

Speaker 3 (15:49): I'm going with like, it's it's not your granddad. It's literally it's gonna be like,

Speaker 1 (15:55): no, that's some that is a literate person that that that image on the bottle is a specific literal person. And this was made as a tribute to him by his grandson.

Speaker 3 (16:05): George Stagg or George C. Stagg or somebody. Basil Heiden. Okay. Close.

Unknown Speaker (16:09): Yeah. Go figure. I did not

Unknown Speaker (16:11): know Wow. One fourteen for you. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:14): No. The the old granddad was named after Basil Yeah. His grandson continued the business, but wanted something for his

Unknown Speaker (16:22): to sell. Yeah. It's been off another brand and that's cool then. I did not know that. Good one.

Unknown Speaker (16:29): All right.

Speaker 1 (16:29): So we've done the regular one fourteen. This is the new old granddad one fourteen, age seven years. This is the single barrel and Barrelproof. One is 114.

Unknown Speaker (16:40): That's right.

Unknown Speaker (16:41): Lot number one.

Unknown Speaker (16:43): Batch one?

Unknown Speaker (16:44): I don't know. It says lot.

Unknown Speaker (16:46): Yeah. And it's probably the same.

Speaker 2 (16:47): Yes. Only because I want to put just a little bit in here to compare it just to look at, especially the color difference. What I found when I first opened mine was not only in flavor does the single barrel seem to have a darker Dude,

Speaker 3 (17:03): that was flawless. Check that. The that was flawless. So

Unknown Speaker (17:09): Well, that's nice. That's really nice.

Unknown Speaker (17:11): Is this the same one fourteen? It doesn't smell like This is the

Unknown Speaker (17:15): old is this is the small batch. Yeah. You're right. No.

Unknown Speaker (17:19): The

Unknown Speaker (17:19): Yeah. That's It's a ringer.

Unknown Speaker (17:21): Yeah. There's always gotta be one.

Speaker 2 (17:23): Yeah. Yeah. So there's no no age statement on this, and you figure the mash bill and the proof are the same.

Unknown Speaker (17:30): Yep. You're right. So this one that is, has an age statement. Seven years.

Unknown Speaker (17:35): I mean, is it just safe to assume that this is four and they're just not calling it what it, you know what mean?

Speaker 2 (17:40): Like, I cause feel like it's just pulling more of that caramel out of the char from the barrel from being in there longer.

Speaker 3 (17:45): To your point, like, you look at these two, you said this earlier, the difference in color in these two things is shockingly different too. Mhmm. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (17:52): Let's see if I can Zoom her in. Yeah. I can I switched cameras to, like, get Oh, there you go? Slow with this.

Unknown Speaker (17:59): Still learning.

Speaker 2 (18:00): Yeah. It's funny. I mixed them up, but I was instantly able to tell which one

Speaker 1 (18:04): was which. Bob's touching the single barrel.

Unknown Speaker (18:06): It is. I'm just trying to make

Unknown Speaker (18:07): sure I get it.

Unknown Speaker (18:08): Yeah. That's

Unknown Speaker (18:09): there straight through the bar. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Crazy different.

Unknown Speaker (18:14): More of an Amber color too.

Speaker 3 (18:16): Yeah. Yeah. I think it, it doesn't have the same proofy spicy rye taste on it.

Unknown Speaker (18:22): So I still get a little bit of the rye, but

Speaker 3 (18:24): It's not as strong. Yeah. No. I agree.

Unknown Speaker (18:26): I get more of the of the oak and the char. I think it's very well balanced.

Unknown Speaker (18:32): Yeah. This is a great book. Great find. Go figure.

Unknown Speaker (18:38): Now what I'll be curious is to see how it compares with the lot.

Unknown Speaker (18:42): I feel like that one's in between. Right?

Speaker 1 (18:45): Yeah. Now this one does not have an age statement. It says lot number seven, but this one is, would have been the low barrel entry proof. Yeah. You know, back before they raised the rules.

Speaker 1 (18:57): Yeah. So they had to barrel it at below one zero seven. I think it was one zero five. Right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:03): Was the max barrel entry proof, but now they can barrel entries. They can go up to $1.25 for the barrel entry water. Yeah. The barrel give No. That's

Speaker 3 (19:16): it's the best of the group so far.

Unknown Speaker (19:18): Yeah. I would say.

Speaker 3 (19:19): What's MSRP on that one?

Unknown Speaker (19:21): About $50. Yeah. It's a great buy.

Unknown Speaker (19:25): Yeah. Yeah. It's a strong bottle.

Unknown Speaker (19:27): Yeah. Should be a home button on this, but I don't know how to use it.

Unknown Speaker (19:31): We're still figuring it out.

Speaker 2 (19:33): I had a friend down in Jacksonville run into one of those bottles, but, not a price controlled state. Said it was running two, two fifty or something

Unknown Speaker (19:42): like that,

Speaker 2 (19:43): you know, because they know it's fresh out. And but that's I don't remember in a

Unknown Speaker (19:47): It's like an even rare 12.

Speaker 2 (19:49): Sad bottle that does run, like, 200 for an SRP. I can't remember. Was that, like, a fifteen or twenty year? But Yeah. It's just crazy.

Speaker 3 (19:59): And Florida, I feel like it's got its own little weird market anyways. Like, everything is upside down there or something.

Unknown Speaker (20:04): Yeah. Yep. So 1980.

Unknown Speaker (20:14): Gotta commit. So have I don't know if I've had this one before. No. I don't think you did. I don't think I was here when we had it.

Unknown Speaker (20:19): You had the the 7,600 proof.

Unknown Speaker (20:22): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (20:23): Which is so I get the dusty phone call.

Unknown Speaker (20:26): Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (20:26): Like a little bit of a, like an orange peel.

Speaker 3 (20:29): Yeah. It's weird because I don't it's same mash bill. Yep. But it's lost all of that rye bite. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:37): Now is that because of the lower We'll figure that out, I guess. I mean, anything's possible. Multi. Or is it also because it's aged? Maybe it's we it doesn't have an age statement on it.

Speaker 3 (20:51): Right? Right. So I I think it's just gotta because it'd be it's so old. It's gotta be. Mhmm.

Unknown Speaker (20:57): Legs. Yeah. So it has the rye bite on it once I get back to it. Once it you sip it.

Unknown Speaker (21:04): I think it's oxidized a little bit, but I get more of the char. I get more of the barrel char, I think, and a little more butterscotch.

Unknown Speaker (21:12): I don't know if I

Speaker 3 (21:12): noticed the oxidation. I noticed it on the nose, not on the palate at all.

Speaker 2 (21:17): I definitely think it's more similar to the single barrel than just the run of the mill one fourteen. I feel like the single barrel is almost like an homage to what the that's a great may

Unknown Speaker (21:28): have been. That's a great way to look at it. Yeah. Flavor lasts on it though. Man.

Speaker 2 (21:32): Do you think because of the age too, you don't get the proofiness instantly, which almost makes it just that much better?

Speaker 3 (21:39): No. Some of these older bottles- Flavors. Yeah. These older bottles are dangerous for that exact reason. They drink so light and that yellow stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:49): I've always said that it's not down here. I can't ever remember if it's the Monticello or the pheasant, which was the one I like. That's the Stitzel Weller juice. It's the Monicello bottle. Right?

Speaker 3 (22:04): That one was historically the thing I'm like, this thing is unreal. This thing is scary good.

Unknown Speaker (22:12): And it's only a six year old bourbon. Look how dark that is. Yeah. I can't even see through it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (22:19): It's well, I guess.

Speaker 2 (22:23): Yeah. It's down here now. Be an insult to the bourbon tonight.

Unknown Speaker (22:28): That's right. You know, we haven't done this. Well, you haven't done that, but I

Unknown Speaker (22:31): hadn't opened this bottle in a long, long time.

Speaker 2 (22:33): Now I don't have any dusty bottles. Is there anything that you do like special to try and keep it from aging, not aging oxidizing too quickly? Or is it just sort of like a,

Speaker 1 (22:45): so I've heard a number of theories on it. Like I know that Bardstown bourbon company, they're the library. They will pump a gas into the bottle to push out oxygen to stop any oxygenation.

Speaker 3 (23:00): You probably got one of those things in your house too. Right?

Speaker 1 (23:02): Yeah. Right. But you look at it, it was oxidizing the entire time it was in the barrel. Yeah. Right.

Speaker 1 (23:10): And it's going to continue to oxidize a little bit once it's in a bottle.

Speaker 3 (23:14): All that's true. I think the difference is it's not direct contact with the air. I think the way I've always heard this is it's best to store your bottles in the dark and in the cool. Think there's just as much luck involved in it as anything else. We've opened some of these that were still tack sealed that are similar in age, and one was oxidized and one wasn't or more oxidized than the other.

Speaker 3 (23:49): And I think that's the you gotta have just as much good practice, as much luck as you got good practice. That's my and some of these, I guess, we know the history of them. Like, some of the ones you've gotten from places you know that they were in this same house for this long of a period of time stored in this liquor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:08): Yeah. Like this one fourteen, the 100 proof bottle and bond. Yeah. And that's with the wine over that Monticello.

Unknown Speaker (24:14): So it's it's

Speaker 3 (24:15): Damn diff well, that one, though, is a ceramic bottle, though. Like, that one I can see being and that one, I think you got just as much chance as anything else happening. I don't know. Was that nonsense? Milk class or something?

Unknown Speaker (24:27): Yeah. There's yeah.

Unknown Speaker (24:28): You're right. Yes. Not painted.

Speaker 2 (24:30): Well, now you see more of the composite cork. Yeah. Well, that's true too. And

Unknown Speaker (24:36): You don't have to worry about the cork.

Speaker 2 (24:37): Very much about that kind of stuff, but I wonder how it will affect oxidation process and keeping things because, you know, some of my bourbon buddies, they they hate to see a fake cork, but it makes you wonder.

Speaker 3 (24:50): Well, isn't it that's half the reason why some of these wine expensive wines go bad over time is it's not it's being contaminated by the cork as much as it is anything else.

Speaker 2 (25:01): So I had a bottle of Jefferson's cask strength from this past year, which if you haven't had that, it is a fantastic cask strength burger. Really? Not the ocean one, just the Jefferson's cask strength, but the cork broke off. And that was, like, one of my favorite bottles. So I spent the next, like, thirty minutes trying to strain it, and I had just finished my New Rift.

Speaker 2 (25:26): I think it was the Balboa rye, and I rinsed it out and rinsed it out. And so now I have to remember every time I open that new rift bottle that I'm not going

Unknown Speaker (25:34): for. It's not actually. Yep.

Speaker 1 (25:35): So there's a couple tricks to get the corks out. We've done.

Unknown Speaker (25:38): Yeah. You had yo. That was the bag.

Speaker 1 (25:40): Yeah. You know, the plastic grocery bag down in and twist it. We got that cork out. But, I've broken a so I have a whole cork kit, replacement cork kit with all different sizes that so I can just pull

Unknown Speaker (25:53): I know where to come then.

Speaker 3 (25:54): Yeah. Well, I think that wasn't a cheap Amazon find too? Yeah. I guess if you have, like, special, like, good luck on something like this big.

Unknown Speaker (26:02): But

Unknown Speaker (26:03): Right. You might as well just no. Look at dude. Come on. I should have poured that.

Speaker 3 (26:08): Tiny, tiny. Take that one. Literally splash me. You take that one. Give me a or pour more pour yourself more in that one.

Unknown Speaker (26:15): Give me a splash in mine. Yeah. This is on the list of things I feel like I gotta stop when we go down in August. I gotta get myself one. This thing's crazy good.

Unknown Speaker (26:23): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:23): So I picked this one. Steph bought this for me for my birthday at revival vintage spirits in Covington, Kentucky. Okay. And, they had a couple of cases, but this was distilled fall of nineteen sixty four, bottled spring of nineteen seventy one.

Speaker 3 (26:43): It's shown up on several podcasts because it's sneaky. So to me, that is not oxidized. That's just smells phenomenal. Yeah. It's got a this I get peanutty, I guess, on too.

Speaker 3 (26:55): Yeah. Caramel. Caramel.

Speaker 1 (26:57): Yeah. Like a true caramel, like a flan caramel. Like drizzle that's over the flan. This is

Speaker 3 (27:06): your grandma's pocket candy. Yeah. It's like liquid candy.

Unknown Speaker (27:11): Oh,

Unknown Speaker (27:11): yeah. Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:12): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:14): No proof to it. No man. What is the is this

Unknown Speaker (27:18): a Bottle and bun?

Unknown Speaker (27:19): Bottle and bun. 100%. Bottle and bun.

Speaker 3 (27:21): It's almost smoky or something too in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:24): Finish just last. Yeah. So you can walk away an hour later and you're still getting that sweet taste.

Unknown Speaker (27:29): Yep. Yeah. That's this is I don't know. There's a couple more floating around there that I really like. Like I said, that old Stets of Weller Juice is really good.

Speaker 3 (27:39): Yeah. This one's sneaky. Good.

Unknown Speaker (27:41): I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (27:42): I'm trying to think that Russell's 13 or 16 is crazy good. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:48): I feel like everybody comes on

Unknown Speaker (27:49): the podcast has that Russell's

Unknown Speaker (27:51): No.

Speaker 3 (27:51): Yeah. 16. Yeah. We gotta be careful with that thing, though. No feds.

Speaker 3 (27:54): I'm not saying no. We're just saying Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (27:57): The 83 wild turkey. I don't know. I think I

Speaker 3 (28:00): tried that one. I wasn't it wasn't my favorite. It's wild Turkey for sure.

Speaker 2 (28:05): Let me see it. When I was down in DC, I went to a Jack Rose dining saloon and they just have walls and walls of a bunch of spirits, but mostly bourbon. And you can kind of go downstairs and look at their private select. And they had a dusty rare breed that I had.

Unknown Speaker (28:27): That's a cool look, a bottle.

Unknown Speaker (28:29): One of the guys there, he he really knew his stuff. And I was going for one of the new the really nice new bottles of wild Turkey. The one of the one of the special, not the

Unknown Speaker (28:38): rare breed.

Speaker 2 (28:39): The no. Like the spirit. Is it, like, master share? Master keep. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:45): And so, you know, I've seen so much about that. I've been wanting to try it. Yeah. And I asked the guy, is there something like, I really like Russell's and Wild Turkey. Is there something on this list that I'm overlooking?

Speaker 2 (28:56): Yeah. Because I really want this master's keep. And he's like, honestly, if you're gonna spend that money, which is totally worth it, I think you should spend the same amount of money on

Unknown Speaker (29:05): this And

Speaker 2 (29:08): it was cool because when you're you're tasting a piece of bourbon history, right, that if it's gone, it's gone. Like you said, with that Russell's end, it

Speaker 3 (29:20): really That's held the part. I'm good on this one. That's the part that always surprises me is like, has two cases of this Yellowstone from 1971 laying around? It's gotta come from its distributor. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:34): Just had it sitting around, for the right price, it was able to go.

Speaker 2 (29:37): So someone didn't know what they had. Then I

Speaker 3 (29:39): would feel bad. It's absolutely possible, but still it's just such

Speaker 1 (29:43): a So this is the Russell's 2,003, 16 year old, and it's 89 and a half proof, but it's barrel barrel. So it lost that much alcohol. Wow. From where they had it, but it had a barrel entry proof of one zero seven. So it was the low barrel entry proof.

Speaker 1 (30:02): So the flavor on this. Yeah. This is my favorite wild Turkey. Is it absolutely the 83 is close. The 83 wild turkey one zero one a year is close, but this is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (30:16): I mean, I really like that camp Nelson barrel paint.

Speaker 3 (30:19): Listen. Those fantastic. The it's same thing with the the other one. The these those Russell's Reserve OHLQ picks for Father's Day are super good.

Speaker 2 (30:29): Yep. Ton of banana on the nose.

Speaker 3 (30:32): Yeah. I got one for a buddy of ours, and he opened it the other day. He's like, yo. This thing is good. Like, they're they're sneaky and yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:41): There's a smile in there. I see it already.

Speaker 2 (30:45): Right? That's and it's you know, we're spoiled because it's like not we've just already been drinking white bourbon

Speaker 3 (30:53): and then to have something Embarrassment of riches. You just fall that just followed a 19¢ like, bottle was what is the math on that? 55 years old. Like, that's the crazy thing about it is that just followed that and it's still yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:09): That's a great bottle. They're not easy to find, though, either. They're not just randomly out there. You

Unknown Speaker (31:14): gotta money.

Unknown Speaker (31:15): That's about it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:17): So you got that one?

Unknown Speaker (31:18): No. So

Speaker 1 (31:20): Yeah. There was the guy from Canfield that was

Unknown Speaker (31:22): Oh, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:24): Yeah. What a find.

Speaker 3 (31:25): Yeah. Was a nice collection.

Unknown Speaker (31:27): Thank you, Jimmy. If you

Unknown Speaker (31:29): watch Yeah. Thank you. He had a lot of good stuff. Yeah. Finding it the right way.

Speaker 3 (31:32): Yeah. So the you're exactly right. It's there's so many good bourbons out there. It's just finding the time and the the alcohol poisoning level is the magic way to figure this out. Right.

Unknown Speaker (31:46): Have some time. Spend some time,

Unknown Speaker (31:48): but don't spend too much time.

Speaker 1 (31:50): So now it's your choice. What else do you want to try? It's all open. Well, there's only one bottle that's

Speaker 3 (31:56): There's one. Well, there's there's more than one, but there's only one that cannot be opened. Right.

Speaker 1 (32:03): I will open anything but that one.

Speaker 2 (32:06): Just out of curiosity, which one is that one? I'm not gonna ask you to open it with.

Speaker 1 (32:09): It's the happy 23, but it will be opened in August. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 (32:19): I mean, we have a scheduled and just confirmed. So we are interviewing Preston Van Winkle of the Van Winkle family in August. So we're going down Bob and I and spouses spouses. And we're going down doing that third week of August.

Unknown Speaker (32:36): That's gonna be awesome. So we're

Speaker 1 (32:38): gonna open that and have a cigar with it. Yeah, looking forward to that. So I said whether when I retire or if I get to interview the family,

Unknown Speaker (32:47): whichever comes first,

Speaker 1 (32:48): whichever comes first, but everything else. Yeah. Trying to think

Unknown Speaker (32:53): if there's anything else that I think is sneaky good in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (32:57): I mean, even that dirt. So as far as like playing blends, but that, that derby bottle,

Speaker 3 (33:04): that derby bottle is a barrel pick was good.

Speaker 1 (33:06): Yeah. The dirty bottle is a a barrel pickup, just regular blends, but it was really good.

Unknown Speaker (33:15): Yeah. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (33:15): I agree.

Speaker 1 (33:17): The president's choice to me is one of those ones that will talk to you all night long. Like it,

Unknown Speaker (33:22): I didn't love it.

Speaker 1 (33:24): The first time I had it, I did not love it. No. The second time, every sip like changed and got more complex as I had it. And it was just phenomenal.

Speaker 3 (33:34): I'm curious to see what these next, this new round looks like. Yes. I think that's going to be How did those get out? How were they out as long as they were out? They were there the next day, right?

Speaker 3 (33:47): Yeah. That's the part that really surprises me. Maybe it's because you had to be inside the state of Kentucky. I don't know. But I'm curious to see what those end up tasting like.

Speaker 2 (33:56): You know, it's interesting to me. I'm trying not to gravitate towards, like, things that I would just immediately be like, oh, yeah, of course we're gonna but so I have a few Willett bottles, but all of them are, the four year estate. And I feel like those are home runs already. And I've had some of the older stuff. And I'm, I'm curious how you feel like, because obviously with age, the price goes up, but you can find the four year bourbon I

Unknown Speaker (34:25): have one sitting in the basement right now for pop up.

Speaker 2 (34:27): What? 60 something bucks for Jacoby?

Unknown Speaker (34:30): I had just released them a couple weeks ago. And I

Unknown Speaker (34:31): have one of those. They're family estate rye. You didn't even finish the last one.

Unknown Speaker (34:36): This poor boy gotta go. I'm driving you home, brother.

Unknown Speaker (34:39): Get Alyssa over here. Yeah. Shoot. You'll be fine. This is the twelve year.

Speaker 1 (34:44): So single barrel, twelve year barrel pick from evergreen liquors. Okay. Yeah. It's called loyalty points bottle 44 of one twenty eight. We bought two bottles.

Speaker 1 (34:57): So when I went down for my birthday, we went down to Louisville and we ended up coming home.

Unknown Speaker (35:04): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (35:07): Including this Yellowstone. I have a 1971 Taylor upstairs.

Unknown Speaker (35:12): That bottle's crazy awesome.

Speaker 1 (35:13): That's that's really good. Two of these will at twelve years. One is Steph's. I'm not to touch that, this one

Unknown Speaker (35:23): I'm to free rein with.

Unknown Speaker (35:26): What else would we come in with? A lot of stuff. But yeah, that's a fantastic one. It's incredible.

Speaker 2 (35:34): I think what I like about Will It? Is they have so many like expressions like these off sheets. Like I can see the Pier, Kentucky. One of my go tos for like a budget bottle is the estate bottled, old Bardstown. But they have a wide range of like 30 something dollar bourbon that is great bourbon all the way to these, like twelve year estate models.

Speaker 2 (35:57): And I find it like no matter which one I buy, I'm just always impressed.

Speaker 1 (36:02): Yeah. And I I think they've got a lot better too. Like, I I think what early on, their their their lower end bottles, I I got turned off.

Speaker 3 (36:12): Like, Well, there was listen. The the pot still bottle is the prettiest bottle in bourbon. Right. But it's also not the best juicer. It's looker.

Unknown Speaker (36:21): Yeah. Yeah. It's got a great personality.

Unknown Speaker (36:23): Yeah. It's it is the coolest bottle that exists.

Speaker 2 (36:26): Someone really smart Go. Out how to sell some.

Speaker 3 (36:30): It was it's like the it's you're exactly right. It's the it's the marketing equivalent of everything else Buffalo Trace does. They figured it out. They got it dead right on that thing.

Speaker 1 (36:40): What I think is the best Will It bottle out there is Rowan's Creek. And I'll be honest. I mean, it is to me a fantastic drinker food body.

Unknown Speaker (36:50): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (36:51): Yeah. What is that? Like $42 or something like that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:56): The rating was forty ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (36:58): Yeah. And it's interesting different states. What is widely available because down in Virginia, that's an allocated bottle. Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:09): And ABCs it's it's on the shelves, but it's a little And when I was first moved to Norfolk, would take trips back here to see parents, fiance, and always got a pop in who an OH LQ. And honestly, I didn't know about chalet, so I would pop in the giant Eagle in Canfield and still great selection. And I remember taking pictures of stuff, people being like, how is that on the shelf? Yeah. And I was just getting into bourbon.

Speaker 2 (37:37): So I was like,

Unknown Speaker (37:38): I don't know.

Speaker 2 (37:39): Want one? You want Every time I drive home, I bring an extra suitcase for bread. And, and it's stuff like Rowan's Creek, Noah's Mill, and I think it goes to show, like, it's really easy to get caught up in

Unknown Speaker (37:51): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:51): The the the super cool stuff. But even a guy that I ran into, I got a bottle of one zero seven the other day. I was telling him, yeah, I was really shocked that there was a Old Forester 1924 drop. And then I showed up a few days later at this store, and it was on the shelf next to a single barrel, barrel proof rye. Both of those things, but that wouldn't last a day in Virginia at cost.

Speaker 2 (38:17): They're like, oh, yeah. I don't 1924, it's not really like what's up around here.

Speaker 1 (38:23): Yeah. Really? Because that's It's a great it's a great bourbon. I I really like that it's a great bourbon.

Speaker 3 (38:30): Well, let's do this. I just looked. There is at least one store within ten minutes of here. One store? There is a store within ten minutes of here that has Weller Antique available at the store, and it's been there for two days now.

Speaker 3 (38:47): Tuesday. Tuesday. Since Tuesday. Today is Thursday.

Unknown Speaker (38:50): Do you know?

Unknown Speaker (38:51): Yeah. Now

Speaker 2 (38:54): this might be controversial opinion, but, I mean, I mean, I take any Weller other than the special. Well, I feel like foolproof 12 and single barrel because CYPB, of course, you're gonna take that over Blanton's, but like, I was shocked that I went to a store one time and this was a month ago for my first bottle of one zero seven. You got like a case of one zero seven behind there, and they're just selling Blanton after Blanton. And I was the fourth and now don't get me wrong. It's a good bottle,

Speaker 1 (39:27): but for the, I have a theory in 1984, when, when Blanton's came out, it was the only single barrel available. It was the only expression. So people that liked bourbon in their thirties and forties, that was it. You know, if you wanted something that had like character and something that, and back then the Blantons were eight to ten years old. Whereas now they're four to six years old for just the regular blends.

Speaker 1 (39:55): So it's a different product, but to them, that's still the bottle to get.

Speaker 3 (40:00): Well, it's also, what is this 17 proof points lower? Yeah. It is I I think that Weller Antique in the state of Ohio kinda has cult status just because everybody uses it for trades or whatever else But that thing at the end of the day, don't know. If it weren't for that, well, let's also say it's $20 cheaper than a bottle of blends as well here. So that's the other side of this that I think factors into that a little

Unknown Speaker (40:33): bit as well. You can

Speaker 3 (40:34): go in listen. There are that there are guys that walk in there and they'll buy Eagle Rare ten year over Blanton's and 107 because that's what they for that matter, there's a guy that goes to Chalet who will be in there in the morning. I'll be hoping for a red. They've got reds. He'd be like, I'm just here for the special reserve.

Unknown Speaker (40:55): He likes special reserve better

Speaker 2 (40:56): than he likes? Yeah. Yeah. I I do think it just it's interesting to me because like I said, down in Virginia to see a one zero seven unicorn. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (41:06): Yeah. And Blanton's just for the price point, like if I saw Eagle Rare and Blanton's on the shelf and I had to buy one, I'm probably going with the Eagle Rare, which is not necessarily a widely accepted, but you get ten years. Half the price. Yeah. Half the price.

Speaker 2 (41:25): It's a good bourbon.

Speaker 3 (41:28): Eagle Rare's a unicorn in my book. Ten year age statement for the price. I don't know if it gets a better value in bourbon than that. That's my opinion. Eagle Rare's the

Unknown Speaker (41:40): Yeah. No. Have you had twelve year?

Unknown Speaker (41:42): I haven't.

Unknown Speaker (41:43): You shouldn't. Shouldn't. I was just start walking home now. There's gonna be a

Unknown Speaker (41:46): lot of dishes to do tonight.

Speaker 1 (41:48): That's alright. Actually so I loaded the dishwasher. It's ready.

Speaker 3 (41:54): Yeah. No. No. Eagle Rare 12 is better than Eagle Rare 10. Yes.

Speaker 3 (41:58): And I

Unknown Speaker (41:59): think it's better than the Eagle 10 barrel picks too.

Unknown Speaker (42:02): Barrel picks?

Unknown Speaker (42:02): You do?

Unknown Speaker (42:03): Yeah. I I only had this one with fresh cracked. I've not had it for a while. So, yeah, it's good.

Speaker 1 (42:09): Yeah. That that's well worth it. What what is that?

Unknown Speaker (42:13): That's one of

Unknown Speaker (42:13): those ones that's tough to find. 79? I guess. I I checked OHLQ, but it's not even there. Right?

Unknown Speaker (42:18): Yeah. You can't get it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:21): Yeah. I don't think I've seen it in a price controlled state.

Speaker 3 (42:24): Nope. Even on you were 25 and 30 is on OHLQ, but you were 12. That's the way the old fits bottle and bond seven year was. That thing took forever to get here.

Unknown Speaker (42:38): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:38): And I think I think it showed up three times now, four times now, and it'll sit a little while. Like, I think everybody that one on one's got one, so it'll sit a little while. A little bag with it. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:49): They're yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:50): Yeah. Those popped up down in Virginia. They showed up first at the Navy exchange on base.

Unknown Speaker (42:56): Oh,

Speaker 2 (42:56): really? And so

Unknown Speaker (42:58): You guys are spoiled.

Speaker 2 (42:59): A 100%. There were a few moments, but then sometimes we either that or like you get last year's batch of something. Yeah. We still got the 2025 mid winter nights tram. Oh, jeez.

Speaker 2 (43:13): Yeah. And there's like 30 of them sitting there because they couldn't sell them anywhere else. They figured it out for you. You guys think they might, or they forgot they were behind something like, crap. We we hadn't sell these.

Speaker 3 (43:22): But Well, that's why we were talking last night. One of the bottles that they had at the raffle was George T Stagg. Yeah. Which in theory, I think they've offered in two raffles now. It can't be $20.26 George T.

Speaker 3 (43:36): Stagg because that ain't happened yet. So they've had George T. Stagg sitting in warehouse enough to do in raffle quantity that's been sitting around through two other raffles. So they're not just offering they're not dumping it all when it shows up. They're portioning it out across the year, basically.

Speaker 3 (43:57): So yeah. And I guess they've done it in they've done it in store. They've done it in, like, their online raffle. Now they did it in person raffle. So So

Unknown Speaker (44:07): what Pappys have you had?

Unknown Speaker (44:08): Tell him stop, or he's just gonna keep going.

Speaker 2 (44:10): Pretty sure I've had every single one. Because I got them all in all. I I'm a bad bourbon drinker. I'm I'm also, I guess I can't say I'm new to the game anymore, but I've really only been collecting for like a year and a half or so. And I know I've, I will be here for twenty years

Unknown Speaker (44:28): and I'll still say I'm new. Know, I'm

Unknown Speaker (44:31): always something to learn, always a

Unknown Speaker (44:33): student and,

Unknown Speaker (44:35): keep

Unknown Speaker (44:36): learning for as long as I can.

Speaker 2 (44:39): I know I've had some and that's all I know. I know that there's, there were a few restaurants down in Virginia Beach that had a really nice whiskey list. I actually take pride. There was one really nice steakhouse that you had to use their POS system to

Unknown Speaker (44:55): look to find it.

Speaker 2 (44:56): And I had gone enough times and asked to look at their bourbon list that they printed out a whiskey list. They're like, oh, you're the guy that keeps asking. Look at this. And I was like, look what I've done for the community.

Unknown Speaker (45:07): Yeah. What's your favorite? My favorite? Yeah. I think I know it.

Unknown Speaker (45:12): But It's gonna be the Pappy 15.

Unknown Speaker (45:14): Yeah. Same. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:16): Which is really weird. Yeah. I agree. So I see one bottle of Penelope over there. Much of that have you had?

Speaker 2 (45:25): They're not that specific bottle. How much Penelope stuff have you had? We need

Unknown Speaker (45:30): to do a pull Penelope night. I've got enough that we can just do. I've got, like, 15

Unknown Speaker (45:34): different ones.

Speaker 1 (45:35): I think I've got five or six right now. So, Michael, you'll just have to come back.

Unknown Speaker (45:40): Yeah. We'll do another we'll do a Penelope night. Penelope night. Well, we can't do 15 or 16. Hell no.

Unknown Speaker (45:46): No. Although he's halfway there. Basically, one as long as as long as you don't finish all of them at the same

Unknown Speaker (45:51): time.

Speaker 2 (45:52): I've only had one drink. No. But I I picked up that eighteen year American light whiskey. Think that's this year's batch.

Unknown Speaker (45:59): Our friend just saw that on the shelf somewhere. Where was he?

Unknown Speaker (46:02): Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:03): Nick found it somewhere. Where was that?

Unknown Speaker (46:06): I don't know where he was he's traveling. Right? I don't know where he was. I was shocked to see that.

Speaker 2 (46:10): I got mine in the shelf. 150. I think it's, like, technically MSRP is around 100, but it's one of those things where it's like, are you going to see it? Like, it it because I'm a pretty big Penelope fan because a lot of their stuff is really, really affordable.

Unknown Speaker (46:26): Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

Speaker 2 (46:27): And I don't know. It's just so unique. I the the light whiskey is really great, but my favorite is either the Takaji cask rye. And I don't know that I'm saying that correctly.

Unknown Speaker (46:37): Nobody can. Don't worry. Or

Speaker 2 (46:39): their Havana. I have a real, I don't have the Havana. Yeah. I have the Rio bottle. And that's one where, like you said, you have to finish with that, but that's just because it's like so sweet that you go to anything else and it just tastes like pure alcohol.

Speaker 3 (46:55): I got the creme brulee was just floating around here a couple weeks ago. I got that one, and I have the family estate ones from this year too.

Unknown Speaker (47:02): Oh, yeah.

Unknown Speaker (47:03): So those were all we did a night with a bunch of those, those were all pretty darn good too.

Speaker 2 (47:07): Let's see if I can find this straight on picture. Yeah. So that that brew is all I also like their Project X stuff, that one on the far left. It was a West Virginia barrel pick in I'm done. Maple brie.

Unknown Speaker (47:22): I'm good. I don't believe I'm saying that, but I'm done. I know you're not

Speaker 2 (47:26): gonna pass on it. And then they just put out so they had the barrel strength, but then they put out that seven. Seven years seems to be the popular thing Yeah. This year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (47:36): It was the special release. Once again, on base in Norfolk, Virginia, I think a supplier accidentally mixed in one of the seven years with just the regular four grain barrel strength. Cause I saw two bottles on the shelf with all the other normal barrels, bottles, barrel strength, price, nothing special. Bought both of them because why wouldn't

Unknown Speaker (48:00): I? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:01): It's there. And haven't seen it since down there. So it was obviously just an accident. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (48:07): I had to smell his and look at

Unknown Speaker (48:09): the legs on this. I

Speaker 2 (48:11): just, I didn't even see what he poured out.

Unknown Speaker (48:13): Cutting my mouth.

Unknown Speaker (48:14): 107 proof, fifteen year.

Unknown Speaker (48:17): Yeah. Well, cheers. Cheers. It's weird because it's not the most expensive. It's not the most rare.

Speaker 3 (48:23): It's not but it's I've heard a lot of other people say they like the 15 too. It's just the right amount of time.

Speaker 1 (48:29): I really enjoy the oakiness of the twenty year.

Unknown Speaker (48:31): Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:32): Yeah. So I, but it's, it's just a different flavor profile. It's only 90 proof. Yeah. But this one's a 107 proof.

Speaker 1 (48:41): It's I think just perfect for the.

Speaker 2 (48:43): Yeah. I had this conversation with someone about the Elijah Craig's because a few of my friends as a farewell present gave me an 18 and I really enjoy it. But one of my friends who really loves heaven, he loves Elijah Craig has like every barrel proof for the last few years, just won't drink the 18. And he says for him, it, which I don't know that I agree with this. He says it's a scotch drinkers bourbon, which I don't know that I agree with that, but you really do.

Speaker 2 (49:11): I mean, it's like chewing on wood, but it's like chewing on the best wood because I think it was the a one twenty four.

Unknown Speaker (49:19): Oh, yeah. Those ones are all

Speaker 2 (49:20): Bare proof. And that one, it was like rotted wood. Yeah. I just couldn't get behind it. But then at first, thought I just wasn't an Elijah Craig person got the a one twenty five fell in love, but between the '18 and '15, they're like, no, I think '15 is the year like that's that perfect year.

Unknown Speaker (49:41): Yep.

Speaker 1 (49:41): So I really enjoyed the '18 that I have the Elijah Craig 15. I liked the Elijah Craig 15, just a hair more. I did. It has a little bit more of a darker fruit flavors. You get more of the fruit, but I, I like an Oak, an Oaky flavor.

Speaker 1 (49:59): Now, as far as the barrel proof, I got the, I believe it's the, but my favorite's the there's a night and day difference between the 20 and the 25. So I know people

Speaker 2 (50:15): are all about that. What is it? C nine twenty three or whatever. Well, wasn't that the

Speaker 3 (50:20): one that was supposedly somebody else's juice or something too. What was the,

Unknown Speaker (50:23): yeah, there was a huge conspiracy

Unknown Speaker (50:25): behind it.

Speaker 2 (50:25): And I liked them, but for those it's like,

Unknown Speaker (50:28): what does come out at a,

Speaker 2 (50:30): not 80, but like 70 something bucks a pop. And I enjoy them, but I enjoy a lot of stuff. Find them just half the battle. Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:38): And so, and I think they put out like three batches a year. There's the a bat ABC. It's like Stag. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:45): Yeah. They're all listen, that's the hard part is we with everything that's happening with whiskey these days, there's so many good bottles that like, I honestly think somebody's more willing to spend $60 on a one zero seven than they are $30 on a or $20 on a wild turkey. Like, it's really weird that the best bottles I guess it's like it's like housing. The top of the market never really changes. The top of the market, you're gonna spend $20,000,000 in a house, you're gonna have that $20,000,000 today, tomorrow, or ten years from now.

Unknown Speaker (51:20): Right.

Speaker 3 (51:20): Like, within reason, obviously. But if you're trying to buy a $400,000 house or like, I think it's just one of those things where the the market's really weird. It's good.

Speaker 2 (51:30): I will say that Eagle Rare 12 stands up pretty I mean, this is a a clear winner. Yeah. But it's impressive It's that that 70 something dollar bottle of Eagle Rare is putting up a fight at all. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:44): Yeah. I mean, as well as Buffalo Trace does marketing.

Unknown Speaker (51:49): Yep.

Speaker 1 (51:49): I mean, they're, they're fantastic. They they've got it figured out, you know, what 37 bourbons for four or like that. Yeah. It's something crazy, But I love their products are really good. I think you just cannot argue with the fact that they put out really good product.

Unknown Speaker (52:07): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (52:07): So I, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:09): Yeah. I think that's the, you're right. There's not a lot. There's not 37 match bills.

Speaker 1 (52:15): Right. I mean, they have figured it out.

Speaker 3 (52:17): Well, they've produced scarcity. They've listen. All those bottles, those Weller bottles are all pretty. The scarcity drives that. The the Pappy bottles are all they're Veilinkles.

Speaker 3 (52:32): Just call that what it is. But even the other stuff, we, like, we knock the traveler stuff.

Speaker 2 (52:38): Gotta have effort. Not everything will be touched. Traveler foolproof. I don't want the normal the normal travel one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (52:45): But I saw the foolproof come out, it was, like, $39. And I was like, I own worse whiskey for much more, so I might as well and you know what? It's actually pretty good. I I was like, well, is it gonna stack up against any of the other Buffalo Tray stuff? No.

Speaker 2 (53:01): But does it have to? Is it is it trying to? Maybe not. Maybe it's just marketing.

Unknown Speaker (53:05): There's, 10 different benchmarks over Like at the end of the day. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:09): Yeah. So it's like the Sazerac Sazerac foolproof. So I had both of those, but you know what? The Sazerac foolproof, the Thomas Handy,

Unknown Speaker (53:19): much different can they be? That's what I've heard. Just a little bit.

Unknown Speaker (53:24): So yeah, I got it.

Unknown Speaker (53:27): Would call

Unknown Speaker (53:28): it a Sass 18 and see the difference.

Speaker 3 (53:31): Yeah. Yeah. Again, I don't listen. The difference that all that said, the difference between Eagle Rare 12 and Eagle Rare 10 is pretty stark. Like, years of an Eagle Rare bottle is a big difference in my book.

Speaker 1 (53:45): So Well, it's like the difference between the the lot b and the old. Yeah. Mean, there's a, there's a big proof difference, but you just get, start to get that Oak, which just mellows the flavor so nicely. Yeah. You know, but even, even Joliet Van Winkle, I mean, if he can't do the lot B, he drinks the water 12.

Unknown Speaker (54:07): Yeah. That's

Speaker 1 (54:08): his favorite drink. That's what, you know, I think Fred Minnick said it that you develop all of your taste buds within the first four to five years of your life. And those 20 different flavor profiles that you carry all come from there.

Unknown Speaker (54:22): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (54:22): So if you like something, that's what you're going to like for

Unknown Speaker (54:26): rest of your life.

Unknown Speaker (54:26): So don't remember drinking bourbon.

Unknown Speaker (54:29): No, but, but,

Speaker 1 (54:30): but your nose is associated with your taste buds. Right? So Julian Van Winkle grew up in a distillery smelling a palate, you know, so that develops your palate.

Unknown Speaker (54:41): So I just like listen to Wally talk about going out the back door of his grandparents house.

Unknown Speaker (54:45): Yeah. We, we interviewed Wally Dan in his grandfather's house at the distillery that used to be the JW Dant distillery. And he used to talk about when he, he'd get

Unknown Speaker (54:57): there, he'd go visit

Speaker 1 (54:58): his grandparents house was right beside the Rick houses. So when you go into the house, he said there was just, you could smell the Rick houses in the house growing up. But he said now, and we stayed there overnight, but in that house, you can still get that smell in the basement. Yeah. You know, so it's like,

Unknown Speaker (55:16): it's in the wood,

Speaker 1 (55:17): it's in the wood. That's that's that is your macro palette. Yeah. Fantastic. I just heard something today from the first time that yeast strain that Maker's Mark uses to do their yeast was given to them by PAP.

Unknown Speaker (55:33): Think how many different yeast strains can there be? Well, who was it that lost their yeast strain?

Unknown Speaker (55:39): So Heaven Hills lost their yeast strain. Stitzel Weller apparently in '92, their yeast strain ended. Yeah. So does that mean they could go back to Maker's Mark and maybe get theirs?

Speaker 3 (55:48): And say, hey. Give us who says they didn't? Listen. Those guys all know each other. Those guys are all friends.

Speaker 3 (55:55): Those guys there's buff turkey bottles for a reason. They all help each other out when it comes time. They know that it's in their best interest. Good on them. It's the way business should should When they had the fires for Heaven Hills

Speaker 1 (56:07): Somebody else stored it. Yep. Yeah. Everybody came in and started donating whatever they needed to get them back

Unknown Speaker (56:13): Back up.

Speaker 1 (56:14): Yeah. But and and even Wally said, you know, like, his family intermarried with me, the grand. So Yeah. You know, getting yeast strains. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (56:26): But I I

Speaker 3 (56:28): it's all interminquable. Good on them. Listen. This is we talk about the reason we stand in line, the people we talk to. Why would why would we expect anything else out of the guys that make this stuff?

Unknown Speaker (56:41): Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:42): Yeah. This is the fun.

Unknown Speaker (56:44): Yeah. 12345678. And I think No. I think

Unknown Speaker (56:50): some of these got pushed over.

Unknown Speaker (56:52): No. No. No. Some of these were double pores too at that.

Speaker 2 (56:55): Speaking of community. So so I'm not doing a traditional bachelor party, getting married next year.

Unknown Speaker (57:02): Congrats. My brother wants to

Speaker 2 (57:04): You sure? Do a Well, no, no, no. He wants to do a bourbon trip because he knows how much I enjoy bourbon. He wants to go down to Kentucky, do a bourbon row, but also some other stuff. I'm a big new riff fan.

Speaker 2 (57:18): And so we figure either on the way down or on the way back.

Unknown Speaker (57:21): Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:21): I've never done, I mean, I've done distillery tours. There's, I mean, I did Bowman down in Virginia because I won a bottle. Okay. And that was great. Shameless Bowman.

Speaker 2 (57:33): You know? I love it. The the Abraham Bowman, I will say, stands up to

Unknown Speaker (57:37): I don't remember.

Unknown Speaker (57:38): The stag. Okay. Well, I've I've got the batch four.

Unknown Speaker (57:43): I think I have one

Speaker 2 (57:44): at home. Yeah. I've batch four Abraham Bowman, the cask strength, 139 proof.

Unknown Speaker (57:49): Oof.

Speaker 2 (57:50): Yeah. But you you wouldn't know. It tastes like syrup.

Unknown Speaker (57:55): We and Liruel are the same way, a 132 proof. You don't you don't notice half of it. That that's one

Unknown Speaker (57:59): of those bottles in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need a really their port cask.

Speaker 2 (58:03): Isaac Bowman, I think, is the port cask. But for someone that's never really made a trip just to see

Unknown Speaker (58:09): the distillery,

Speaker 2 (58:12): are there any dos or don'ts or like things that someone might think, oh, okay, I definitely wanna go here because this is a big bourbon name. And then maybe you found out differently or so. Think that, I mean, if you do a tour

Unknown Speaker (58:26): in one place, you're going

Unknown Speaker (58:26): to get the very

Speaker 1 (58:27): similar tour in any other place. So if you're going to do the 51% corn tour, yeah. You know, you're going to get the same information. I think that the experience we had at log still distillery was fantastic. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (58:43): But Wally Dan, you know, That was yeah, drove us around and gave us the tour, and we we went through everything.

Speaker 3 (58:50): I it was just fantastic. I I think you can't do it without doing a Buffalo Trace tour. Find one of those, get yourself in on. The second they go available, you gotta get in it. It's different there.

Speaker 3 (59:02): I think that's the hard part is all of those big distilleries, Woodford, Four Roses, all of them, even the deluxe rose of the world, are all made to host people on tours to celebrate their brands. They do a great job of it. I've been on two that I think when we were down my first trip, we went to Independence Day. They make all the barrels for everybody. And that tour wasn't a whiskey tour, but to see the time and the effort and everything else to go specifically into all those barrels was very, very cool.

Speaker 3 (59:37): Acres of wood precut sitting around aging outside of that was super cool to see. And I've always said old Louisville was a very good tour too. He's an NDP, but he does a really great job picking barrels. The tour was very cool because it's a guy who you thief your own whiskey, you find something you like, he pumps it out, he labels the bottle right in front of you. It was super cool.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:06): Yeah. For a bachelor party, that'd be cool.

Speaker 3 (1:00:08): Well, especially if you depends on how many guys. Like, I think he's allowed like 10 or 12 in a group. You can just have your entire group of guys hanging out with the guy that owns the not the the warehouse, the brand, talking you through the bourbons that he's got in the warehouse and what he's doing with it. It was a very cool experience. And we

Unknown Speaker (1:00:26): have a buddy that swears by Whiskey

Unknown Speaker (1:00:28): Correct. Same reason.

Speaker 1 (1:00:29): Same thing. Doing the same thing that Whiskey Thief is very good for that.

Speaker 3 (1:00:36): Those other ones are good. Don't get me wrong. I've had good tours at Woodford. I've had good tours. Where else did I we do?

Unknown Speaker (1:00:43): I don't even remember at this point.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:44): I think if you wanna see something, I mean, Maker's Mark.

Speaker 3 (1:00:49): I think the hard part about going right now is nobody's gonna be producing. Right? Do you even I'm when we were at Buffalo Trace last, they were still made They were still producing. Are they still producing? Yeah.

Speaker 3 (1:00:58): Okay. I say because it's something to be down there, and it's just the smell is everywhere. There's something to be said for

Unknown Speaker (1:01:04): that too. Produce.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:05): Listen. That's what they're those places are made for tours. Yeah. So I think it's find your favorite brand, the one you know you're gonna enjoy, and do it for the brand, not the the tours are all

Unknown Speaker (1:01:18): Right.

Speaker 3 (1:01:18): Right. Don't don't do don't do more than two tours in a day. If you're going to find a bus that the tour buses that'll drive you around and do it with them. Yeah. That's my take.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:29): Yeah. Or have a designated driver or four.

Speaker 1 (1:01:31): Or four. Is it? Yeah. Well, what's nice when you have density of driver. So when we went down to when we did the Wally Dan interview and we did a whole podcast now, so we do the tour, right?

Speaker 1 (1:01:48): And we go into their test still. Yeah. And I'm trying

Speaker 3 (1:01:53): Which is in the, like, their brew distillery house, their their bar area.

Speaker 1 (1:01:57): It's it's their bar area. So, you know, you know, like, oh, try this. And you know, so I'm trying all these white dogs. Then everybody that we're with hands me what has left on their glass. They

Unknown Speaker (1:02:07): don't try.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:08): Okay. So I'll try that. And then we'll go out to the recap and then we start three

Unknown Speaker (1:02:14): or four barrels

Unknown Speaker (1:02:14): there, four barrels there. And I'm getting everybody's left at the, you know, they're just trying a little sip. So by the time we go back and we start the podcast and then we try four bourbons, four or five bourbons.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:27): Yep.

Speaker 1 (1:02:28): And then we drink a little bit after the podcast with with Wally. So I I was feeling no pain.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:34): The point in the Rick house where Wally was taking what was left in the glass and dumping it. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:40): And I was like, oh, don't do that.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:42): You know?

Unknown Speaker (1:02:43): I have a ton more behind me.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:45): Yeah. Yeah. So by the time we decide after we got done with the podcast, we were gonna go to we were supposed to go meet my colleague Minton

Unknown Speaker (1:02:52): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:52): At Dark Arts.

Unknown Speaker (1:02:54): And Well,

Unknown Speaker (1:02:54): we were supposed to have dinner and then yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:02:56): Yeah. So we get in the car. I get in the front seat, and he's driving. I'm soups.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:03): Oh, boy was out. I was out. Oh. I was waiting for the drool

Unknown Speaker (1:03:08): to start rolling out of his

Unknown Speaker (1:03:09): mouth. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:10): But then ready to go.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:11): Yeah. As

Unknown Speaker (1:03:12): soon as we got there.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:13): You know? Get a little food in your belly and go again.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:16): Yeah.

Speaker 3 (1:03:16): Yeah. Yeah. I think they're they're all they're all legit. I think that it's really weird when you get down there because, like, getting in and out of Woodford, it's in the middle of nowhere. It's one lane roads into that joint.

Speaker 3 (1:03:30): Like, that's always the part that surprises me. Yeah. Do they roll the barrels out of there? Who's driving the semi truck out of that joint? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:37): I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:38): Yeah. So you'll have to

Unknown Speaker (1:03:39): let us know. Give us a Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:42): Hi, May. Yeah. We're still on. Doing?

Unknown Speaker (1:03:43): Come on in. Come on in.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:45): The water's nice. Everything?

Unknown Speaker (1:03:47): Yeah. Old granddad.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:49): What isn't he drinking is the better question. We stopped like six pours ago. Hi. Good to meet you.

Unknown Speaker (1:03:59): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:04): Do you what is it? Now I'm curious. Do you have one that you like better than everything else?

Speaker 2 (1:04:09): I mean, the Van Winkle just stands in a different league, but I honestly think that the OGD single barrel really held up incredibly well to everything else that we tried.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:23): I agree with that.

Speaker 2 (1:04:24): Yeah. Like, for for $50 and

Unknown Speaker (1:04:27): Say other sandwiches.

Speaker 2 (1:04:28): The state that you're in, pretty available. I went in three days to a liquor store and saw those bottles sitting there. Yeah. You're going to some liquor store three days in a row? I'm like, this elicit.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:43): I'm like, to walk into a liquor store a for three weeks. Probably be there. Now

Speaker 2 (1:04:48): granted that was insane week as the fray ranch did in Ohio exclusive drop. Yeah. And I got the five grain bourbon.

Unknown Speaker (1:04:58): Okay.

Speaker 2 (1:05:00): Which is pretty great. I've been waiting for the barrel proof fry. I haven't seen that around here, but I think people were really excited about that, that they didn't realize that it was a different OGD sitting back on the shelf, or maybe they just weren't interested, but for $50, I mean,

Unknown Speaker (1:05:19): yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:05:20): I, and I would say that that OGD single burl, the one fourteen is so similar to that one fourteen regular from 1980. Yeah. I mean

Unknown Speaker (1:05:31): You said it you hit the nail on the head when you said it was kind of that's what it was. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (1:05:35): Yeah. I don't think it was an accident.

Speaker 3 (1:05:37): Yeah. Now that you're liquored up, let's tell let us tell you about this awesome table we have over there of these amazing bourbons that we have special selections of.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:45): Steph can point out the table of shame.

Unknown Speaker (1:05:47): Oh, is that what it is? This is the table of

Speaker 2 (1:05:50): held my questions until I knew what this was because Yeah. Nobody. Well, because I've heard some good things about Castle and Key as far as the tour goes. I follow some guy online that it's a fantastic tour.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:07): We believe that could just be a bad bottle. That's Yes. It's universally Just

Unknown Speaker (1:06:12): smell that bottle.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:13): It's a Weeded?

Unknown Speaker (1:06:14): Yeah. Smell that. Just just smell that bottle.

Speaker 3 (1:06:17): We believe it's a bad bottle. I hope for gasoline.

Speaker 2 (1:06:22): It's pretty funky for a weeded. I feel like usually you don't get Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:26): Yeah. And funky meaning

Unknown Speaker (1:06:30): Band Aids. I know

Speaker 2 (1:06:31): that yeah. Yeah. If I I smelled this, I would immediately be inclined to drink it. But, also, I've I've had a lot of whiskeys where the nose is drastically different than

Unknown Speaker (1:06:41): the palate.

Speaker 1 (1:06:42): How it is no different. Okay. Yeah. I would question whether cleaning car parts with that all would be appropriate.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:49): Yes. I did. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:06:52): Just my farm. Yeah. It was, it was a disappointment. And I even waited and that one was supposed to be good, but it

Unknown Speaker (1:07:00): I've heard a lot of talk about that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (1:07:02): Yeah. Yeah. I, I had it too.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:06): Sure. Why not? Would you like to taste? No. This was the one.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:10): Wasn't this the one that

Unknown Speaker (1:07:10): they tripped? Seven years. See, the seven is the

Speaker 3 (1:07:12): They tripped us on this one because it's got a award winner tag on it, but that was, like, two years before this bottle was made. Yeah. Like, that they they caught us with the Okadoka on that one. Award winner. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:25): Yeah. Something. It smells fine. Fine. I tried that one too.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:30): I thought you you guys, I'm gonna go We can go out of Jefferson.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:33): I'm good. We'll go to sleep.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:35): Well, I, well, that's an hour and twenty minutes.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:37): Yeah. We've long today

Speaker 1 (1:07:38): rambling on Michael. Thanks for coming on.

Speaker 2 (1:07:40): Thank you. This was so much fun. This was a blast. Yeah. Bob.

Unknown Speaker (1:07:44): Thanks. Yeah.

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