Liberty Barrel Club- Pinhook,Dream Spirits, Old Dominick, and 1958 Jim Beam; Ep. 52

James Lawrence (0:08): Welcome to Bourbon, Brass and Beyond. Tonight, James Lawrence and Michael O'Neil join us us from Liberty Barrel Club. We are clicking the explicit box on this episode, so check who is in earshot. Sit back, relax, and enjoy the flight.

Michael O'Neil (0:20): Let's go.

Michael O'Neil (0:29): Good evening. Welcome to Bourbon Brass and Beyond. Tonight, it's gonna be a little special night. We're doing some samples. We're joined by Liberty Barrel Club out of Kentucky, Lexington, and it's brother Dolph, James Lawrence, and Michael O'Neil.

Michael O'Neil (0:45): So welcome to the podcast guys. Thanks for

Unknown Speaker (0:47): joining us.

Michael O'Neil (0:48): It's regular Michael on this side, not brother, anything over here. Just regular Michael. Let's get that It in the

James Lawrence (0:54): was a calm. It was a dare. I got pissed from multiple computers. So James Lawrence, but tonight going under brother at all surname.

Michael O'Neil (1:05): Thanks, brother. You sent up three samples for us to try tonight, and we haven't poured any in our glasses yet. But we we're Sorry.

Unknown Speaker (1:14): You guys have been bad

Unknown Speaker (1:16): for a while.

Unknown Speaker (1:16): Yeah. We're gonna start Dan and Bob.

Michael O'Neil (1:22): It's been one of those days, but I did get my grass mowed.

Unknown (1:24): I was in the yard all day today.

Unknown Speaker (1:27): Hot suckers.

Unknown Speaker (1:28): You should have seen it. It might might

Unknown (1:31): It's it's been raining nonstop here between rain and wind and nasty. It's been sopping wet for weeks.

Michael O'Neil (1:37): Apparently here too, but I was on vacation until yesterday. I got home like

James Lawrence (1:42): at 04:00 this morning. So it hasn't been that bad. I think the next week or so it's supposed to rain.

Michael O'Neil (1:48): So James, I saw your yard today. You gotta mow that in the morning while you're in for a world of hurt.

James Lawrence (1:55): That's not what I was talking about. Listen. Let's go on to the samples.

Unknown Speaker (2:00): So we've got, the pinnacle

Unknown Speaker (2:05): Or pin hook. Pin hook.

James Lawrence (2:08): He said he has has a sip all day and he just said pinnacle. Like, we're slopping bodka or something. Some pin hook, like, you know, they came out, I don't know, 2014, 2015, and announced that they were buying a big batch of, or no, they're buying a big batch of, of, barrels, from MGP, and they were gonna do a big release every year, some of the best of their stuff called their vertical series. So, you know, I was in living in Colorado at the time, kind of started buying the four and five year old bourbon and rye, as you can expect every year, kind of got continually better. Yeah.

James Lawrence (2:48): Lived here in Colorado or in Kentucky now and reached out to Sean Joseph, the owner, and said, you know, we'd really like to do a ten year pick. I think I think for like six months straight, was messaging him, him texting him probably twice a month. And finally, he's like, alright, I need to get this guy off my back. So he sent his Kentucky representative with the first samples in the country. And she'd had these three or four samples in her car the entire day.

James Lawrence (3:17): So we get them here and it's, you know, it's July. These samples are high. I put them in the fridge and, twenty minutes later, we try them straight out of the fridge. We pick one of the three and we're like, shit, we hope that's good. Like, cause one, one was better than the others, but who knows what it's gonna taste like in the glass at the end of the day.

James Lawrence (3:38): And we got it. It was our second pick for Liberty. And I think if you polled the group, it's probably in the top three of, of what's been the favorite. It's just, it's just what bourbon cheese tastes like to us. You get a lot of cherry vanilla.

Michael O'Neil (3:51): There's not a person that has tried that. There wasn't like, what is that? Yeah. As I said, I was on vacation all last week. I took a six ounce sample flight of that Pinhook Tenpin down to Florida with me on vacation, stopped by a store down there where a buddy of mine lives.

Michael O'Neil (4:14): And there's some guys hanging out, you know, talking about pics or whatever. I bring it in there. And one of the guys was like, what is this finished in? They're like, that's not finished because it is like that good. You get that much like vanilla and caramel on it.

Michael O'Neil (4:27): Like, sure. It was phenomenal. And like these guys are like, could not believe that it wasn't finished because it was just so sweet and just so like good. They loved it.

Unknown Speaker (4:37): So I had some early pinhook stuff and I think that it was still pretty young and this is, this is light years ahead now. I, yeah, this is fantastic.

James Lawrence (4:47): Yeah. I think, I think for me, you know, I had, I got on early just listening to like, for instance, like bourbon pursuit podcast. And I think that's where a lot of guys pre 2000 may have started kind of getting into bourbon and listening to like the nerd side and stuff. And they mentioning like pinhook and this and that. And I was like, all right, let me go start trying it.

James Lawrence (5:05): Got some of the four or five, six year old stuff. I was like, for the age, like, this is really good. Like, this is what bourbon should taste like kind of. So I think it, for me, it's, it was, you know, now that it's at a mature age and you can really say like, all right, that's got its legs on it. And that's, you know, it's not just useful, kind of heat anymore.

James Lawrence (5:24): And so I think for us, like we picked the ten year and Sean was kind enough to offer us a ten year ride pick as well. We picked one them. Yeah. We pick the ten year ride that, that, you know, due to distribution that can come tomorrow. That could come in two months.

James Lawrence (5:39): We've kind of been waiting on that since the super bowl, pick that super bowl weekend. But I think since we picked both ten years, Sean said, you're now kind of locked into picking 11 through 16. And we've subsequently already picked an eleven year.

Unknown Speaker (5:52): There's no eleven.

Unknown Speaker (5:53): Cause there's no ten year left to me. Right? That's why

Unknown Speaker (5:56): there is no ten

Michael O'Neil (5:57): year left. The eleven was actually, it was room temperature. It was not like the heat of the outside in someone's car for a week. So it was.

James Lawrence (6:07): Yeah, there, there is no ten year left. We've already picked an eleven year kind of follow-up. This was our ten year, but eleven year, I think was around the same proof. One that one sixteen to one eighteen. But, yeah, that that's probably gonna be a September, October eleven year bourbon release.

Unknown (6:27): How many pics you guys do a year?

Unknown Speaker (6:29): Well, well, listen here.

Unknown Speaker (6:32): Bourbon, that's me or James?

Unknown Speaker (6:34): Bind?

Unknown Speaker (6:36): I think James

Unknown Speaker (6:37): has a different answer than I do.

James Lawrence (6:39): Okay. So so here here's the here's the medium answer. You used to be a part of a different club. And I think I think I think minds minds went differently. I And Some things I never want disco that

Michael O'Neil (6:57): you don't have a rainbow on your profile, so it's okay.

James Lawrence (6:59): I I I chose to partner with somebody that kind of had like minded views. We kind of agreed on, like, you know, a couple of different pillars of what we wanted the group to be. And I think initially we said we were going to do eight to 10 picks

Michael O'Neil (7:13): a year. You said 10 to 12.

James Lawrence (7:16): 10 to 12. And I think due to my excitement, I think we are at like 16 since August. Jeez.

Unknown Speaker (7:25): Yeah. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (7:26): So you're busy is what you're saying. This is one of those times where I

Michael O'Neil (7:28): have an entire shelf full because James won't slow down.

James Lawrence (7:35): After July, really should start slowing down.

Michael O'Neil (7:39): Which I'm not super angry about. My wife on the other hand, she's like, he needs to slow it down. I'm all about I'm all about good bourbon, good whiskey. I like getting the word out there, but my wife is like, he said 10 to 12. I'm about to pet him off.

James Lawrence (7:57): She is a very literal woman and we've achieved the weight of her dad. That was what I was saying.

Unknown Speaker (8:04): But when you're spitting out fire constantly, it's hard to be like, no, we don't, we're not gonna do anything.

Unknown Speaker (8:09): It's not now. So do you have a lot of these then still available?

James Lawrence (8:15): So actually, you for asking. We do have one pick that we launched yesterday, which is our previous 15 picks. I think the longest it took one of them to sell out was two and a half weeks, but I'd say the last like six or seven have sold out within like

Unknown Speaker (8:33): within twenty four hours, twenty, twenty five hours

James Lawrence (8:36): within, within a day. We've got one going right now. It's an, it's an eight year reveries. A pick Bardstown bourbon company juice is on shared pour. We've got it on our Facebook and Instagram.

James Lawrence (8:48): But I think we've got around 50 bottles of that left. Cause it was a monster yield. A lot, a little bit more than what I think we initially thought it was a huge yield.

Michael O'Neil (8:57): Yeah. She report not shipping to every state has affected that, but like the response has been phenomenal. The guys that have tried it have been nothing, but like, like, oh my God, this is amazing. Like we've had people buying multiples of it.

Unknown Speaker (9:14): I think we had a guy bought that bought 12.

Michael O'Neil (9:16): We had a guy buy two cases. He was like, I need two cases of this, you know, because he knew

Unknown Speaker (9:21): we started with a little And game we're down to like 60. So

Michael O'Neil (9:26): yeah, like it, yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's going well. It's just, it's a very high yield and with shared for not shipping to all 50 states. Been an issue, which we've, we've tried to work something out where we found like, mostly old for people because

Unknown Speaker (9:45): they'll ship them to people with my core.

Michael O'Neil (9:47): Shared floor was gonna be this way. Yeah. But Jay, Jay West with Reveries, he's been awesome. Yeah. It's just, you know, like he can't control who shared pork can ship to.

Unknown (9:59): Yeah. Oh yeah. Listen, this is one of the challenges. I mean, we talk about this in Ohio all the time as a, as a, as an allocate or a government controlled state. It makes it tough.

Unknown (10:09): Like, we've talked about doing a couple and getting it through the process is never easy. So

Unknown Speaker (10:14): Ohio. You

Unknown Speaker (10:16): did it.

Unknown Speaker (10:16): You take your red weller and get out of here.

Unknown (10:20): Well, listen. I think those days are starting to go away. It's funny what's happened here for several many

Unknown Speaker (10:26): years without a single Red Weller in this state.

Unknown Speaker (10:30): It is it really has been the land of Weller. I'm not gonna lie. And it it I

Unknown Speaker (10:35): feel like what Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (10:37): What do you mean one Red and Weller?

Unknown Speaker (10:39): Oh, yeah. I think I've got 15 in my garage right 20 of them in my garage right now. Like, it's it's an embarrassment, but things are going on like real fast. That's the weird part about this is that it was very, Kentucky.

Unknown Speaker (10:51): Do know the things that we've had to do to get our bottles? You don't wanna know.

James Lawrence (10:54): I think I've seen I think the misconception about Kentucky is that, like, you're there, you you get everything, but it's like, they sell it to everybody first and then what's left over. They put in the state. So it's kind of like, well,

Michael O'Neil (11:07): then, then, then you have the mafia around here who doesn't even drink, but they they'll camp out and flip it because they don't have a life. They don't have a job. They live to flip

James Lawrence (11:16): that. Apparently they don't work because every drop they're right in there. I'm like, it was, it was 10:00 on a Wednesday. Like what, what the hell are you doing for work? Like,

Unknown Speaker (11:25): mean, like, no life,

Michael O'Neil (11:28): no job. They live to flip and me, I'm trying to, I'm just trying to get good bottles to drink. James is the same way. And we're like, please just go away somewhere. Let someone else have it.

Michael O'Neil (11:38): I don't want to pay double because you don't have a real job.

James Lawrence (11:42): I sure would like a gold foil for 400 instead of 1,600.

Unknown Speaker (11:47): James, if I took it off Tuesday, I'll send you a picture of mine.

Unknown Speaker (11:50): Thanks asshole.

Michael O'Neil (11:55): They're like, the new cheesy gulf oil wild turkey. It's about to come out.

Unknown Speaker (12:01): Yeah. Only have some older ones.

Unknown Speaker (12:03): Fuck off. No. You only have older ones.

Unknown Speaker (12:08): It's so rough here. It's not even funny.

Unknown Speaker (12:10): Sir, where in Ohio are you exactly?

Unknown Speaker (12:12): He's like, I've got 16 Austin Nichols I'm about to pull out and fucking

Unknown Speaker (12:16): This is my this is my first bottle.

Unknown Speaker (12:21): What is this? This was the This is the the

Michael O'Neil (12:23): the eight year 101 proof pasta nickels.

Unknown Speaker (12:26): Just That was I think I think We sent you some samples, Dan.

Michael O'Neil (12:32): It's really culture reciprocate.

Unknown Speaker (12:37): Yeah. What's any song? I always do. That's why I have a second one.

Unknown Speaker (12:42): God.

Unknown Speaker (12:45): That's a dick move if I were selling.

Unknown Speaker (12:48): Because James and

Unknown Speaker (12:49): I will do

Michael O'Neil (12:49): dirty stuff for some cheesy gold foil.

Michael O'Neil (12:53): So and actually, we've been comparing that the that Russell's Reserve 02/2016 year, and that thing that that is the ultimate turkey product I've had. That is

Michael O'Neil (13:06): You don't say, hey, James. Do you have one of those?

Unknown Speaker (13:09): I do not. I'm not.

Michael O'Neil (13:12): Oh, who does? The guys in Ohio. Doable.

Unknown Speaker (13:15): What are you talking about? I just gotta walk across the street. That's a good problem.

Michael O'Neil (13:19): He had to wade through his, like all of his waves of Weller antique to find those.

Unknown Speaker (13:26): Basically.

Unknown Speaker (13:28): I bathe in Weller antique, you

Michael O'Neil (13:31): know? You sir smell amazing. It's a it's a good problem. So

Unknown Speaker (13:37): this is the dream spirits pick. Tell tell us about that one.

James Lawrence (13:42): Well, you know, your boys your boys. Brother Doff and my clergyman Michael, we

Unknown Speaker (13:56): Peace be with you. Go ahead. Hang on. God.

James Lawrence (14:02): So we got the chance to go and visit Prague in October. And, you know, first, first time going up there and we picked two barrels. The first one was an eight year double oak.

Michael O'Neil (14:15): The intention of picking two barrels.

James Lawrence (14:17): No. We, we, yeah, we, we were just going to pick one. We ended up picking a eight year heaven yellow double oak.

Michael O'Neil (14:23): We're talking before the pick and, like, we're like, Booker's is a pass.

James Lawrence (14:28): Yeah. We'd we'd all tried the seven year, like, overly hot kind of young Booker's on the shelf. And we were like, all right, like we're gonna pass on that. So we tried a couple of things and prob was like, but you really need to try the bookers. Like those extra couple years does a good job.

James Lawrence (14:46): So we tried it and we were like, holy shit. Hello. That real, that like the extra four years really gives it a lot of extra depth.

Michael O'Neil (14:55): We all like everyone on the pic looked at each other and was like,

James Lawrence (14:59): fuck. And, you know, we've got this guy. His his name is Garrett Hadaway. He he goes on most of our picks and

Unknown Speaker (15:09): Most times he can take part.

Unknown Speaker (15:12): Most some I mean, sometimes he projectile vomits on the way there, but sometimes he's able to do the pick. My floor. He was on this one and then well, yeah, I think we picked the good one. We picked them.

Unknown (15:24): So what you're saying is when you're when you're at the distillery, listen to the guys who tell you you gotta try something,

Michael O'Neil (15:30): take their word for it? If they know what they're talking Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely not. Were we had no interest in in trying the Bookers and, know, it's Prav, so Prav knows what he's doing.

Michael O'Neil (15:43): Yeah. Clearly. He was like, you should really try the bookers. We're like, all right, sure. And then we tried them.

Unknown Speaker (15:49): We all looked at each other like thought this was good. Yeah. And James and I have to go to have the discussions. Like we're picking two barrels, aren't we? And boom, there we are with two barrels.

James Lawrence (16:01): It was kinda like Brittany, listen, I'm, we're sorry. Like, I guess we're doing another pick.

Unknown Speaker (16:06): Everybody's messaging back just to make sure you don't get divorced before

Michael O'Neil (16:09): you go They were so good. Like, you know, and, and James is a Heaven Hill whore. He is. Well, look, look at that face. That man coats for Heaven Hill.

Michael O'Neil (16:19): And, and so we're trying to decide and we're like, all right, we'll do the Heaven Hill first.

Unknown Speaker (16:27): And

Michael O'Neil (16:27): myself and Garrett Hadaway, who did not project a vomit on the way to this pick was like, we were both like, we think the Booker's is better. And as we go back to them every time we're like, just as good as if not better, like they're both phenomenal. And now some of the other places, some other groups are coming out with what we put out months ago. It's cool.

James Lawrence (16:51): Our brothers in Christ, Farrow age whiskey society down in Florida, they just dropped an eleven year butchers, here we are first and clad dropping

Unknown Speaker (17:01): her. Showing everybody the way. Hey, you know what? I got left a message for them with one of their friends. Ryan.

Unknown Speaker (17:11): No, no. It was Greco.

Unknown Speaker (17:16): Gotcha.

Michael O'Neil (17:18): You know, like you saw the message, James. You know what was said. James doesn't want to say it. And I don't want to say it because if they watch, some people get a little chippy and they can't take a joke.

James Lawrence (17:29): No, I feel like we've not thrown any shade this entire podcast so far.

Unknown Speaker (17:33): Okay. Fine.

Unknown Speaker (17:35): That that is said it's not quite a my moment of

Unknown Speaker (17:36): my mouth on Thanksgiving and maybe we'll have some more leftovers they might be interested in.

Unknown Speaker (17:41): Exactly.

Michael O'Neil (17:45): But we like those guys. We do really like those guys. They're cool dudes.

Unknown Speaker (17:49): Think, I think that's

Unknown Speaker (17:50): all in fun.

James Lawrence (17:51): I think one of the like irritating things about, like, some of the regional bourbon club is you've got a lot of, like I think, like, one thing me and Michael wanted to do is was really try to, like, suss out, like, under the radar, NDPs, craft places, like craft nobody had heard of craft. They started six weeks ago and we were their first pick, that kind of stuff. And

Unknown Speaker (18:14): then you

Michael O'Neil (18:15): get some of these clubs that are watching us and then they're like, I suck your dick for a pick.

Unknown Speaker (18:20): Yeah. And then the next thing they put out there like,

Michael O'Neil (18:22): hey, hazmat? Because if it's hazmat, I'll take it. It doesn't matter what it tastes like.

James Lawrence (18:28): Yeah. They'll they'll follow and do the same craft or NDP. And they're like, we just happened to go there and pick two hazmat. And it's

Unknown Speaker (18:36): like, we should have had do. Then you have a separate conversation with someone from that distillery and like, yeah, they showed up and they're like, Hey, do you have anything you're super high proof? Yeah. And here's the thing. Everything we pick, we want to come out as barrel proof.

Michael O'Neil (18:52): Right? But beyond that, we don't give a fuck about proof. We don't ask for proof until we've made our decision. Yeah. Some people, that is what their decision relies upon.

Michael O'Neil (19:05): Like, if it's a high enough proof, then we will take it. And then those groups will sit on pics for fucking weeks And they'll be like, I'm sick. You need to buy this pick. We're not going to release the next, the next picks until you buy this pick. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (19:20): Think that's

Unknown (19:20): the hard part is that everybody's a lot of these groups have a niche. I get it. But at the same time, you gotta be able to produce something or pick something that everybody's gonna like.

Unknown Speaker (19:29): Make it taste It doesn't do anybody any good. Yeah. I just I mean, it taste good.

James Lawrence (19:35): I I think something we've tried to do is like, everybody's chasing after the same legacy bullshit. Know, everybody's trying to say like, we are the first to do this or that, but it's like, at the end of the day, if you're charging $250 for the pick for an eight year or will it cool? I could buy, could buy a purple. Will it from liquor barn here for $2.52. Yeah.

James Lawrence (19:59): You know, I think our differentiator has been trying to

Unknown Speaker (20:01): bring those. I'm keep my opinion to myself, but okay.

James Lawrence (20:04): To try to bring stuff that punches above the weight for an affordable cost.

Michael O'Neil (20:08): You know what? You can put out a shitty overhype at your will it for $250 Well, we put out an eight and a half year will it finished in a French Cabernet barrel for half the cost and you can go suck each other off.

James Lawrence (20:27): Yeah. All right. Next questions, guys.

Unknown Speaker (20:31): Those of you watching, if it's you, whether we're talking about, you know who you are.

Unknown Speaker (20:36): What's the proof on this last one?

Unknown Speaker (20:38): Nose goes. And which one are you talking about? The dream?

Unknown Speaker (20:42): The dream spirits.

Unknown Speaker (20:43): Yeah.

James Lawrence (20:44): The dream is $1.17 flat.

Unknown Speaker (20:47): I'm gonna say, that's drinks nice.

Michael O'Neil (20:49): Yeah. Oh yeah. It's, it's really, well, okay. We're talking about the Booker's, right? Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (20:57): You guys have had Booker's releases before, correct?

Unknown Speaker (21:00): Oh yeah.

Michael O'Neil (21:02): That doesn't tell me that drinks like a Booker's.

Unknown (21:05): No, it is. It's off profile. I think it was a little bit, I mean, I think they've got a little bit of funk on and that one does not.

Michael O'Neil (21:12): Right. And well, and with the the extra four years, it takes away a lot of the harshness and the heat from it, from the youth.

Unknown Speaker (21:19): Yeah. Well, that was the part I was

Michael O'Neil (21:21): surprised It just really mellowed it out and like let it develop.

Unknown Speaker (21:25): Yeah. I mean, I,

Unknown Speaker (21:27): I have a, I have

Michael O'Neil (21:27): a Booker's that I've had open for five, six years.

Michael O'Neil (21:32): Is it the boogers run, you big snob? No. What is it?

James Lawrence (21:37): Going It's hiding behind all the gold foils.

Unknown Speaker (21:41): It's literally about all those fucking gold foils and and antiques and, you know, the old turkey decanters.

Michael O'Neil (21:47): Twenty twenty o two. Yeah. Twenty twenty dash o two. And then 26 proof. But it's a six year, three month.

Unknown Speaker (22:00): He did a couple of those, didn't we?

Unknown Speaker (22:02): Yeah. He was side by side. Do it. Do it. Do it.

Unknown Speaker (22:07): Here, got one.

Unknown Speaker (22:08): Alright. You got two?

Unknown Speaker (22:09): Yeah. I got

Unknown Speaker (22:12): I mean, it's here.

Michael O'Neil (22:13): Hey. Well, that's why we like Dan and Bob.

Unknown Speaker (22:15): We're like, well, what else might follow-up with this?

Unknown Speaker (22:17): What else should we try? Yeah. We only plan doing one or two. And then all of a sudden, four or five later.

James Lawrence (22:23): Welcome to the show, brothers.

Unknown Speaker (22:27): Did James not warn you about us?

Unknown Speaker (22:31): You guys are gonna keep sucking us into more more drinks. Great. Thanks.

Michael O'Neil (22:34): Yeah. James will suck you into whatever, but man, people.

James Lawrence (22:38): People never end up coming over here. They're like, yeah, I'll have a drink. And it's like seven drinks later in three hours, and they're like, shit.

Unknown Speaker (22:45): Like, hey, let's let's try this other thing. And then next thing you know, we're like seven drinks, and I'm like, dude, I gotta go home. I can't keep doing this.

James Lawrence (22:53): As Michael drinks a Pedialyte or Gatorlite hydrates in his chair. I

Unknown Speaker (23:01): drink like a grownup James whoop it out big boy.

Unknown Speaker (23:06): It's fine.

Unknown Speaker (23:09): But yeah, that other one's

Unknown Speaker (23:11): way smoother. Yeah. So much smoother. We're we're so much smoother.

Unknown Speaker (23:16): I will, if you will, James.

Unknown Speaker (23:20): Open the cabinet.

Unknown Speaker (23:21): Oh, did you hear that?

Unknown Speaker (23:25): That was a good one.

Unknown Speaker (23:27): It was a good one. And the court didn't be like, that's a plus.

Unknown Speaker (23:32): It's always the worst time.

Unknown Speaker (23:35): You know, some people don't know how handle it. You just gotta spit on it.

Unknown Speaker (23:40): I

Unknown Speaker (23:41): just I agree. That's not as near as enjoyable to me.

Unknown Speaker (23:44): No, that takes 10 times better than this. And this has been open and yeah.

Unknown Speaker (23:48): Yeah. It's been open for six, seven years.

Michael O'Neil (23:51): So what you're saying is that eleven year bookers is better. Oh yeah. Much better. Figure. Surprise.

Unknown Speaker (23:59): Surprise.

James Lawrence (23:59): We're all surprised. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (24:01): And you know what? They were distilled in similar years. Yeah. Yeah. This one is the

Unknown Speaker (24:08): last one is the old Dominic. 83% wheat, a 12% corn, 5% malted barley.

Unknown Speaker (24:18): Give me a little funky.

Michael O'Neil (24:21): Yeah. Yeah. Get ready. Yeah. That's a good one.

Unknown Speaker (24:30): It has that old dusty funk to it. It has the old.

Unknown Speaker (24:35): Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (24:37): Hey, that old dusty funk is where it's at.

Unknown Speaker (24:40): Man, it does. That's weird. Yeah. Oh, that's

Michael O'Neil (24:45): And you know what? If you think that old dusty funk is something, wait until our next release. What's that, James? We got Jimbo, brother golf.

James Lawrence (24:57): Listen here, brothers. I think. Exactly. Let them hear brothers. My message is simple.

Unknown Speaker (25:13): Bourbon, rye, wheat, and all them other kinds of brews.

Michael O'Neil (25:18): The DC weeder is amazing.

Unknown Speaker (25:21): Yes. And everybody else can suck it. Bourbon power.

Unknown Speaker (25:27): Man, that thing is different. Yeah. I like them. Yeah. That's great.

Michael O'Neil (25:33): Tell me that thing doesn't drink older than what it is.

Unknown Speaker (25:37): It really does. Man. Nice. Yeah. Is this a double girl?

Michael O'Neil (25:43): I'm sorry, James. Are you snuggling?

Unknown (25:45): Is this the sneak peek of the next one?

Unknown Speaker (25:49): Not quite yet, but

James Lawrence (25:51): It's a sneak sneak peek of something we've already done.

Michael O'Neil (25:54): So first of all, took on a life of its own. So like that thing, we did

James Lawrence (26:01): a lot of it had to do with the sticker.

Unknown Speaker (26:04): What do we have with James? A 125 of that or a 120 of that? We

Unknown Speaker (26:08): had 150 of those. We had 100

Michael O'Neil (26:11): and And people were angry that they were not able to get one. And we're like, So only the girls. ISO posts came up. Like it took on a life of its own, which it was freaking, it was phenomenal. Like it was no joke.

Michael O'Neil (26:29): It was amazing. But the things that some of the, like the outrage that some people had, because at the time we like, we've been a group for less than a year and we've grown our numbers well, but we've been a group less than a year. We sold 120 something bottles in twenty five minutes. And people were like, I can't believe you let people buy more than one at a time. And we're like, guys, like, been a problem We took three weeks to sell 90 bottles or something like, you know, like they don't understand that.

Michael O'Neil (27:05): It's like, we don't know what's going to move. We, we have to manage risk and assess things or whatever. Which since then we've done several pics that were like for the first twenty four hours, a limit of one per person. But also a lot of people liked having backups. If, we, and when we do it, we release something, we do an everyone tag, like don't act like you didn't have a chance.

Michael O'Neil (27:33): You know, if it goes in five minutes, maybe you didn't have a chance. If it took over in Adler, bro, like don't don't cry. That's on you.

James Lawrence (27:43): Yeah. What do you guys think of the old Dominic? You know what they're

Michael O'Neil (27:48): saying? Dusty. Oh, it's different, but it's all that wheat, but it doesn't have like, I don't know. It's a really good woodier.

Unknown Speaker (27:58): Yeah. But it's got like a licorice finish. It's got I'm trying to there's, it drinks

Unknown Speaker (28:05): older than its age. I mean, we don't have that 26, you know, Star Hill Farms to compare it to like you do, but you know, whatever.

Unknown Speaker (28:13): Just walking around tasting it because he can.

Michael O'Neil (28:16): All right. You know, fricking Ohio, getting all the stuff.

Unknown Speaker (28:19): You know, you gotta rinse the grass out with it first. Oh, I'm sorry.

Michael O'Neil (28:22): You're, you're hanging out with just Samuel, so whatever. No big deal.

Unknown Speaker (28:27): It's like when you go

Unknown Speaker (28:28): to do your own bottle, you

Unknown Speaker (28:29): have bottle your own. Is it or was it Beam and

Unknown Speaker (28:31): they you gotta rinse it out with whiskey. That's what we

Unknown Speaker (28:33): use the antique one or one zero seven for. Gotta gotta use it for something.

Unknown Speaker (28:39): Well, we went

Michael O'Neil (28:40): years seeing none. So, you know, whatever. Run the dams. It's not a big deal. You know what?

Michael O'Neil (28:46): We can go get the green weller anytime we want now. So leave us alone.

Unknown Speaker (28:50): Yeah. And gold foil.

Unknown Speaker (28:54): Yeah, buddy.

Unknown Speaker (28:57): You like this?

Michael O'Neil (28:59): We've been in Florida last week. And let me tell you the way that, that these distilleries do allocations is 1000% unfair. I'm in Florida for a week, putting in minimal, minimal effort. I roll back with many different store picks, a Stag store pick, a Stag 26A from a Walmart. Jeez.

Michael O'Neil (29:22): Yeah. Fi find me something good at a Walmart around here. Like, and a buddy of mine was like, yeah, I got my, my Jack twelve and ten from the Walmart around here. And I'm like, Jesus Christ. Like, what the fuck?

Michael O'Neil (29:33): Yeah, we, we get no, no, around here, around here, if something like that's coming, the losers with no jobs that are going to flip it, know about it. So they're already in line before we ever get a chance to get it. And I hope those people get a chance to watch this they know my genuine thoughts so that when I see them in person, I don't have to fake it. Get a real job.

Michael O'Neil (29:58): I wish you wouldn't hold so much back. You know, just

Unknown Speaker (30:03): me You

Michael O'Neil (30:04): know, it's just my second podcast. The first one I was really reserved.

James Lawrence (30:08): He was. It was he was a little murderer.

Unknown Speaker (30:13): Man. Oh, was like,

Unknown Speaker (30:14): he knows where all the bodies are buried. And I went by my true name, not brother Doff.

Unknown Speaker (30:19): So you did.

Unknown Speaker (30:21): Yeah. That's great. So we've been doing this since October and we had talked about doing it for quite a while. We've been chasing bourbon for a long time. Too long now.

Michael O'Neil (30:33): And I think this has been, like, the luckiest.

Unknown (30:39): These are these are the ones I like. Like, we can to your guys' point, we get lucky with some of the

Unknown Speaker (30:43): stuff that shows up around here.

Unknown (30:45): I I feel like being able what we don't have is picks as easy as you guys. I think that's the hard part is that you'll see an Ohio pick of something, and they're they're not I mean, they're six barrels.

Unknown Speaker (30:58): It's Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (30:59): It is what it is.

Unknown Speaker (31:00): People doing the picks at OHLQs. Yeah. Sometimes they're decent. Yeah. Sometimes they're

Unknown Speaker (31:05): not a lot.

Unknown Speaker (31:05): I mean,

Unknown Speaker (31:06): I don't

Unknown Speaker (31:07): know. You're a So

Unknown Speaker (31:08): You have a couple of barrel clubs up there, big guys.

Unknown Speaker (31:12): Hang on.

Unknown Speaker (31:13): All the you guys members of?

Unknown Speaker (31:16): Yeah. Let's let's talk about some Ohans.

Unknown Speaker (31:18): Let's hear about it. You know?

Unknown Speaker (31:21): So Jason from Jason Kern from Cleveland Barrel

Unknown Speaker (31:25): Runners.

James Lawrence (31:25): Yeah. Cleveland Barrel Runners. Cleveland Barrel Runners. Good good guy. We would recommend him.

Unknown Speaker (31:30): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:30): Yeah. He came down. He did a podcast with us. He actually came

Michael O'Neil (31:33): But you know what? He whispered in my ear one time, like when we were on a pic that we passed on that. And I didn't know just by looking at it, but he said he's a power bottom. Just saying.

Michael O'Neil (31:44): Were you two like, you

Unknown Speaker (31:46): know, Velcro beard Yeah. Oh, yeah. We were intimate.

Unknown Speaker (31:53): But yeah.

Unknown Speaker (31:53): Two old

Michael O'Neil (31:54): fat two old fat bald guys. We had a measuring contest.

James Lawrence (31:58): We, we would recommend Cleveland Barrel Hunters. I think, I think that's the Cleveland club we would write or

Michael O'Neil (32:03): who else are you guys members of James? Don't you shut this down, James.

Michael O'Neil (32:10): So we, I I do have some barrel picks from the bourbon hunters out of Columbus, Ohio.

Michael O'Neil (32:16): The bourbon hunters? Don't know them.

Unknown Speaker (32:19): I've heard about them.

Unknown Speaker (32:22): Their their podcast has been around for for quite a while.

Unknown (32:25): Yeah. Well, those ones I'm not. Yeah. Here's where he turns into a jerk, by the way. Watch what he's about to do.

Unknown Speaker (32:30): I don't know what this

Michael O'Neil (32:31): is Here's gonna where or they're 87, 87 different times, but let's see this time.

Unknown Speaker (32:38): I'm okay with this.

Michael O'Neil (32:39): If we ship you a bottle, once it's left us, it is no longer our responsibility. It's upon you to receive it correctly. That's right. If we don't sell all 197 bottles, we will never ship you your bottle.

Michael O'Neil (32:53): I think we're just gonna do a little throwaway bottle. A 71 old Taylor. Jesus.

Michael O'Neil (33:07): James. James? James Lawrence, are you hearing the throwaway bottle? Yeah. Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (33:16): But you know what? I don't feel too bad because as I was at James's house earlier, before I came home so that I could prepare for this fantastic podcast. I said, give me something special. So what did I get, James? Not that.

Michael O'Neil (33:35): Not that.

Unknown Speaker (33:37): What'd you get, brother?

Unknown Speaker (33:39): Which one is it? What?

Unknown Speaker (33:40): 82. What did I get?

Unknown Speaker (33:46): I don't know.

Unknown Speaker (33:48): In the early nineteen eighties,

Unknown Speaker (33:51): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (33:51): Old ripped ten year gold vein. Oh. And gold. And I have to tell you that thing was built different.

Unknown Speaker (34:04): That'll do it.

Unknown Speaker (34:06): You know what else is built different?

Unknown Speaker (34:08): Not you, Lavoie.

James Lawrence (34:10): Monument To The South.

Unknown Speaker (34:12): That's what I thought that was.

Michael O'Neil (34:16): I left my bicentennial bottle in the car that I got at the flea market today. James, sorry.

James Lawrence (34:22): What else is the flea market buy?

Unknown Speaker (34:25): This, this was at the flea market. I don't know. Can you see what this one is?

Unknown Speaker (34:32): Tough to walk it to the camera.

Michael O'Neil (34:34): Since you're zoomed out 87 feet, I cannot see what that is, sir.

Michael O'Neil (34:38): Yeah. This is a barreled in 1962. Very old Fitzgerald.

Michael O'Neil (34:45): Hey, you know what? Send me a message. I'll send you my address and we can make this right.

Unknown Speaker (34:55): This isn't even my favorite one.

Unknown Speaker (34:57): That's the major part. No. Bob's favorite one is the six year old.

Unknown Speaker (35:00): That's one is unreal.

Unknown Speaker (35:01): That's that's the that's the six year old six year Listen. There's not enough

Unknown Speaker (35:04): left to that.

Unknown Speaker (35:05): You gotta slow down

Unknown Speaker (35:05): on If

Michael O'Neil (35:06): you hear the old guys talking about their old stuff they have,

Unknown (35:08): It's it's crazy when it's older than me. That's always a sign. Right?

Unknown Speaker (35:12): Yeah. I'm putting them up

Unknown Speaker (35:14): a little

Michael O'Neil (35:14): Like, I've got a couple that are older than me, but, you know, they're they're not as offensive as James's.

Unknown Speaker (35:19): I don't have a lot of old stuff.

Michael O'Neil (35:23): As you pull out your most, whatever.

Unknown Speaker (35:28): Love you, Jane. Michael, I think they're write you to do your butt chugs of some old stuff. Listen.

Michael O'Neil (35:38): You know what? I won't, but I know a guy.

Unknown Speaker (35:43): So the other thing my, wife got me for my birthday was a 1971 Yellowstone. And I have

James Lawrence (35:49): tell gonna say a fucking rim job, but you put out the yellow fence. I guess here we are.

Unknown Speaker (35:54): Man. Oh, I mean, these

Unknown Speaker (35:57): It's something about I don't I I'm going to I have to get one of those. I'm going. They're

Unknown Speaker (36:01): they're Next time I'm done, got

Unknown Speaker (36:02): I know.

Unknown Speaker (36:03): What is it since we can't see it because you're zoomed out 87 yards? Yeah. I'll walk it.

Michael O'Neil (36:09): I'll post pictures. Yeah. This is the Tell me when I'm there. Yeah. 71 Yellowstone bottled in bond.

Unknown Speaker (36:21): Six year old.

Michael O'Neil (36:22): You know what? It's kinda bullshit that we don't have any of that to try with you guys as long as it's Nick.

Unknown Speaker (36:29): Well, I didn't realize, you know, all right.

Michael O'Neil (36:32): Cause I would like to try it, but it's not around here.

James Lawrence (36:35): This one is very underwhelming.

Unknown Speaker (36:40): It, it,

Unknown Speaker (36:41): it definitely does not live up to the high Awesome. Awesome bottle though. Like, the

Michael O'Neil (36:47): bottle 10 out of ten,

Unknown Speaker (36:49): ten out 10 on the bottle, but

Michael O'Neil (36:51): three, maybe four out of 10. Yeah. The juice was underwhelming.

Unknown Speaker (36:56): So we did a whole Yellowstone series, like, on one of our podcast.

Unknown Speaker (36:59): Let's see it, big dog. See, it doesn't seem

Michael O'Neil (37:02): to it's on or Spotify or Apple podcasts. You guys obviously didn't

Unknown Speaker (37:08): They have some store picks that are pretty

Unknown Speaker (37:09): enjoy Dan and Bob. They they put it on the Michael.

Unknown Speaker (37:14): It's all yeah, man. Why?

Unknown Speaker (37:17): The Internet ain't working.

Unknown Speaker (37:21): That's crazy good.

Unknown Speaker (37:24): So what else do you guys what what's your what's your go to? Slippers.

Michael O'Neil (37:30): We don't have go tos.

Unknown Speaker (37:33): When you have a

Michael O'Neil (37:34): Hold on. I see I see a pretty vast collection behind you. Do you have a go to?

Unknown Speaker (37:39): I have a go to, but go ahead.

Michael O'Neil (37:42): You know what? It depends on what guy's there that night, James. What's your go to, sir?

Michael O'Neil (37:48): So if I was just gonna have a nice little sip, I I I like, like, a Weller CYPB or a I like the PAPI 12.

Unknown Speaker (38:01): Booze you, mother.

Unknown Speaker (38:02): You don't get much smoother than that. I mean, if it really is a nice

Unknown Speaker (38:06): Well, you know what? Hold up. Pardon my bad ass walking through my room. I'm going to have a five go to use in it.

Unknown Speaker (38:13): So I mean, if we're talking about it, just a simple go to like,

Unknown Speaker (38:16): well, here's a go to 25.

Unknown Speaker (38:22): I mean, if I hear, if I hear a go to,

Michael O'Neil (38:25): I'm gonna if I'm trying to hate on 25, I will drive to Ohio and spear you guys. Anybody that tries to talk bad about it or says it's too hot

Unknown Speaker (38:36): It doesn't have

Unknown Speaker (38:37): a has a small child pound.

Unknown Speaker (38:40): For the taste, not the proof.

Unknown Speaker (38:44): Hold up.

Unknown (38:45): Tagging is consistently hot for me. I don't know.

Michael O'Neil (38:48): I'm sorry, sir. You know what? I have some hold up. Where where is it at? I have some Evan Williams single barrel over here if you would like.

Unknown Speaker (38:56): Mhmm.

Unknown Speaker (38:57): James? It's fucking great for the money.

Michael O'Neil (39:01): Brother Dolph. Brother Dolph. Did we do a a a gigantic interview blind last year?

Unknown Speaker (39:09): Brother, we did.

Michael O'Neil (39:11): And we did not know what what was what? Proofs or anything. Correct? Nope. What was what was the unanimous winner?

James Lawrence (39:20): Stag 251 out of

Unknown Speaker (39:23): Oh, really?

Unknown Speaker (39:25): Out of It wasn't it

Michael O'Neil (39:26): wasn't close. It was unanimous. Every single person picked.

Unknown Speaker (39:29): Calumet 18, Beacon, a single rig. Calumet 18 is 13.

Unknown Speaker (39:33): I'm sure I'm sure I'm I'm pretty pretty sure

Unknown Speaker (39:42): we've been talking about William

Michael O'Neil (39:43): Hill 19. We all thought that the, Stag was the William Heaven Hill 19 because of us where you're getting on it and wasn't close. That murdered them all.

James Lawrence (39:53): I think William Heaven Hill 19 finished like next to last

Unknown Speaker (39:56): last.

Unknown Speaker (39:57): Oh, really? Oh, really?

Michael O'Neil (39:58): It was it was my next to last because beacon was last.

Unknown Speaker (40:02): Yeah. He's been talking about that Calumet 18 for a while. And every morning we'd go to the before we go to a

Michael O'Neil (40:10): That drop Calumet 18 is phenomenal. Is it? Yeah, think it is not a cheap gal, but

James Lawrence (40:17): she I think we had the Penelope 13 as well.

Michael O'Neil (40:22): Okay. No, like it, it was a big boy blind. Like there, there was, we had what seven in it. And the, the number one was unanimous, not a single part. It wasn't like three people picked this and one person.

Michael O'Neil (40:37): Everyone thought that the GTS 25 was the best. Also, I should have to say none of us were pussies instead of drink pot. It was that.

Unknown Speaker (41:04): Hey, buddy.

Michael O'Neil (41:05): You know what? I have some fucking like Penelope Havana over here. If you need some low proof stuff or some Leo or whatever.

Unknown (41:12): I just like my Blanton's leave me alone.

James Lawrence (41:15): Getting at least big Blanton's gold. And I like my hood on crease.

Unknown Speaker (41:19): Yeah.

James Lawrence (41:22): 1942 when the war ended and the fucking troops came home with grandma's fucking grandpa's rifle from killing the Nazis.

Unknown Speaker (41:31): Usually, I I have a 1944 old crow.

Unknown (41:33): There's one here that was that was bought barrel. 1944?

Michael O'Neil (41:37): Hold on. You have a 1944 old crow?

Unknown Speaker (41:40): Yeah. The still in '39.

Unknown Speaker (41:42): Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (41:42): The still in '39, barreled in '44.

Unknown Speaker (41:45): What the fuck? And how is it?

Unknown Speaker (41:47): Something it was

Unknown (41:48): think about this. It was grown and bottled before the freaking atomic bomb. That's the part I can never wrap my head around. Like, the it's just it's prehistoric.

James Lawrence (41:57): You know what I'm waiting on is is like an heirloom grown Hiroshima corn grown like a bourbon.

Michael O'Neil (42:05): That shit glows in the dark.

Unknown Speaker (42:07): Like a Japanese Hiroshima corn, bourbon. That's what this, glows in the dark in a bottle. You'll you'll never lose it at night.

Michael O'Neil (42:20): That's what all the Sakura finishes are.

James Lawrence (42:23): Sakura is basically Hiroshima Rai.

Michael O'Neil (42:25): So I I've sent a sample of this to Morgan Proctor at Winter Plickers to the Bourbon Swamy to

Unknown Speaker (42:36): bourbon Swamy. You remember talking about McAuley or he'll sue?

Michael O'Neil (42:42): Yeah. McAuley. I actually gave him a sample of this.

Michael O'Neil (42:46): He looks like he seems like a litigious person, so just saying.

Unknown Speaker (42:50): Yeah. So, so, all right. So you guys want to sample that

Michael O'Neil (42:53): motherfucker knows how to blend.

Unknown Speaker (42:55): Like y'all

Unknown Speaker (42:56): listen, James.

Unknown Speaker (42:59): Do you want that? You want the old wild Turkey?

Unknown Speaker (43:03): What else is hot? What

Unknown Speaker (43:06): else do you want?

Unknown Speaker (43:10): These guys have grown up rusky collections.

Unknown Speaker (43:13): Happens when you get old?

Unknown Speaker (43:17): Think You

James Lawrence (43:18): know what else happens when you get old? You look down and you can't see your penis anymore.

Unknown Speaker (43:23): I think this one has probably been

Unknown Speaker (43:25): It's sneaky good. This one's fantastic.

Unknown Speaker (43:28): What are you over there nursing, sir?

Unknown Speaker (43:30): We're gonna nurse that one.

Unknown Speaker (43:32): Is that one?

Michael O'Neil (43:34): Is the Russell's Reserve Russell's. From 2003, sixteen year. It's only 89 and a half proof. You sure you you want Oh,

Unknown Speaker (43:44): only 89 and a half proof. Oh my gosh. From 2003, James. How old were you in 2003, James?

Unknown Speaker (43:53): I'm 15.

Michael O'Neil (43:55): I'm not gonna say because I'm old, but, you know, fuck you.

Unknown Speaker (43:58): Just enough to so I

James Lawrence (44:02): was I was old enough to see.

Unknown Speaker (44:06): But not taste boy. Stealing out of your daddy's

Unknown Speaker (44:09): Legally taste. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (44:12): Right.

James Lawrence (44:13): I think my I think my wife was six at that point. So,

Unknown Speaker (44:19): but what year was this?

Unknown Speaker (44:22): 2003.

Michael O'Neil (44:23): My wife was getting ready to turn 15.

Unknown Speaker (44:27): She was the same age as me. Sorry. Sorry. She was like eight months younger than me. Sorry for

Michael O'Neil (44:35): She told me to tell you to fuck yourself. She's younger than you.

Unknown Speaker (44:38): I don't know. We're going to count the lines next time. She'll piss, fuck at me. So you know. I know she will

Michael O'Neil (44:46): be afraid.

James Lawrence (44:48): If I say she's more wrinkled, I'm going get fucking pinched.

Unknown Speaker (44:51): Yo, you'll, you'll get more than that.

Michael O'Neil (44:55): So tell us about your Turkey pick.

Unknown Speaker (44:59): Oh, which one?

Unknown Speaker (45:00): Which one? The

Unknown Speaker (45:02): new one, James. 251312,

Unknown Speaker (45:08): Michael.

Michael O'Neil (45:11): You're welcome for the information.

James Lawrence (45:14): Okay. So something Michael and I wanted to really like do on the club is bringing new NDPs, distilleries kind of, and I think you've seen the last couple of years, like a real resurgence or, or, or kind of bring to life of like, like legacy brands that kind of went to the wayside and people were brought back like revival brands kind of thing.

Unknown Speaker (45:38): Yep.

James Lawrence (45:38): So there was a brand out of like Paducah, Kentucky, Western Kentucky called O'Torell. And they came back, I'd say like maybe eight months to a year ago, kind of putting their stuff together. And we were the first barrel club to do a single barrel with them about three weeks ago. They're aging all of their stuff at bluegrass distillers here in Lexington. And, we went over and we had Turkey beam, barbecue

Michael O'Neil (46:08): And we, walk in saying worst case.

Unknown Speaker (46:14): Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (46:14): We get some free pours. Yeah. You know, we meet some people. And then we tried some of their stuff and you go James,

James Lawrence (46:23): you know, like she rolls in, in her car and she, you know, it's kind of disheveled. This is their first barrel pick. We're like, you know, we don't know what to expect. We go into bluegrass. We started drilling some barrels and they, your wild turkeys were phenomenal.

Unknown Speaker (46:43): No, no, no. They were amazing.

James Lawrence (46:46): We, we picked it. We picked a ten year wild Turkey from a dis from an NDP earlier this year. Honestly, and the ten year was really good, but this eight year was better and $40 cheaper per bottle cost.

Michael O'Neil (47:02): Different mash bill.

James Lawrence (47:04): Different mash bill, but it it it definitely punches heavier than that ten year. And, you know, I think that's kind of what we tried to do is saying, like, we'll go anywhere. We'll we'll try something once and try to see, like, you know, is there something different? You know? And I'd say we've said we've said no on a on a solid clip more than we've said yes.

Unknown Speaker (47:25): You know, we we turn down a lot

Michael O'Neil (47:27): of can turn that like, is afraid to turn down picks. We won't, we won't pick some bullshit and then beg another group to go half barrel with us or, or do whatever, like some as well.

Unknown Speaker (47:37): But yeah, I'd say we, we,

Michael O'Neil (47:40): tried like, what was it? Eight to 10 barrels that day. We, we tried, four of the, turkey, eight to nine year wild turkey, eight year wild turkey. But then we tried some of the older Barton barrels with that wild turkey. And then we did not ask for proof until the pick was complete.

Michael O'Neil (48:02): We were like, what's their highest barrel? Like that's any group that comes in asking about proof before they try anything is not a, is not a serious problem.

Unknown Speaker (48:11): It don't matter.

Unknown (48:11): Like if it tastes good, who cares? Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (48:13): I don't, I don't care about it.

Michael O'Neil (48:14): But you know what? Lots of groups do that and they're not serious groups.

Unknown Speaker (48:17): Yeah. This is, this is one of the best curbans we've had. Yeah. And it's 89 proof, 89 and a half proof.

Unknown Speaker (48:25): And it's the, the taste 87 year old Russell's pick.

Unknown Speaker (48:28): Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (48:29): That's the 16 year old

Unknown Speaker (48:31): Jimmy picked it. Jimmy had just crawled out of the cradle when he picked them.

Unknown Speaker (48:36): You know, Jimmy was a young man when that one was picked and it was probably amazing.

James Lawrence (48:41): Yeah. And he was he was fighting in the war World War one, and he said, that's a damn good bourbon.

Michael O'Neil (48:47): And this is the low barrel entry proof. This is the good shit. Yeah. But but we have one

Unknown Speaker (48:54): more truth matters.

Unknown Speaker (48:57): Yeah. We have one more to do.

Unknown Speaker (48:59): They're doing it now. We're doing it now. Oh, god. What are we pulling out of the old wagon over there?

Unknown Speaker (49:07): We are gonna do the 1958 James Beam.

Unknown (49:10): It has the funniest handle ever. It looks like you know when you used to go to the store and have, like, the the weird syrup handle on it, like, plastic syrup? That's what it looks like to me. It's hilarious.

Unknown Speaker (49:21): No, sir. We're not old. Are you sure?

Unknown Speaker (49:26): Yeah. We're Alright. Let's do it. Gonna break the syrup.

Unknown Speaker (49:29): I don't have them. You wanna use one of these? Do you care?

Unknown Speaker (49:31): I don't care.

Unknown Speaker (49:32): There you are.

Unknown Speaker (49:36): Maybe? Yeah. Let's see what what happens with this fork.

Unknown Speaker (49:41): Pull harder. Twist. Bit on it.

Unknown Speaker (49:47): It

Unknown Speaker (49:48): worked. Such a wide neck.

Unknown Speaker (49:49): Here you wanna tell? Yeah. That's what she did.

Unknown Speaker (49:53): Hi, Dre, Michael.

Unknown Speaker (49:56): The handles player is I like it. I didn't

Unknown Speaker (49:59): Not all amateurs, sir.

Unknown Speaker (50:02): You like my hoodie, Michael?

Michael O'Neil (50:06): No. Fuck your woke Carhartt. That guy was probably sick to himself putting a logo on that Carhartt. I know. So,

Unknown Speaker (50:17): building 58 bottled in, what is it? What is it on? Bottled in 67.

Unknown Speaker (50:26): Jesus. Man. We can imagine how good it is as you guys set up in Ohio with your amazing

Unknown Speaker (50:31): Oh,

Unknown Speaker (50:32): it's so good. Can you smell it?

Unknown Speaker (50:35): I smell you.

Unknown (50:40): So how many, you guys said you got quite a few more picks left this year. How many is it?

James Lawrence (50:44): Well, listen here. My message is simple. I think we've got probably eight more picks this year. All right.

Michael O'Neil (50:51): You know what, James? James says, I'm using the word calm down, chill.

Unknown Speaker (50:56): Who knows how many

Unknown Speaker (50:56): picks we We still got a fucking Magnus. We got old Detroit. We got

Unknown Speaker (51:05): a pinhook. Two pinhooks. Wow. Don't don't forget about our Silver Springs, brother.

Michael O'Neil (51:17): No. I'm fucking pumped about that Silver Springs. That thing is gonna be so good.

James Lawrence (51:23): Don't forget about our experimental Onyx and Amber.

Michael O'Neil (51:29): Double digits guys, double digits.

Unknown Speaker (51:33): Are all good. But

Michael O'Neil (51:37): also to anyone watching this that has not had it, any chance you get to try something from Onyx and Amber, do it fucking get it every time. Every time they don't miss.

Unknown Speaker (51:50): Or the money.

Michael O'Neil (51:52): Like there are people that we absolutely fucking hate and despise that have done Onyx and Amber picks.

Unknown Speaker (51:58): They've still feel good

Michael O'Neil (51:59): because Ox and Amber doesn't miss. Right.

Unknown Speaker (52:05): Holy shit.

Unknown Speaker (52:06): They're out of Denver.

Michael O'Neil (52:07): You will tell those people who their face, Get some. You

Unknown Speaker (52:11): know Go on. It's

Michael O'Neil (52:15): And if you want, we'll we'll give you names to tag because we ready, but, you know So

Unknown Speaker (52:21): I have to say

Unknown Speaker (52:24): It's not my favorite.

Unknown Speaker (52:25): I am not a necessarily a Yeah. Fan.

Unknown Speaker (52:28): A what?

Unknown Speaker (52:29): A Jim Beam fan. I'm I'm not necessarily a Jim Same. Beam I really like this stuff.

Unknown (52:36): It's good. It's not my favorite. I mean, I it's competing against heavyweights. Yeah. I think that's the hard part.

Unknown Speaker (52:43): I really

Michael O'Neil (52:43): like it. Which beam are you trying now? You've you've you've put on a bunch of old shit. I'm sorry. Before all of us were born except for y'all that it wasn't as good to your life.

Unknown Speaker (52:56): Thankfully, no.

James Lawrence (52:58): Back in the day when the Titanic sank, they, they backfired.

Michael O'Neil (53:04): I don't hit 50 until next year, so I'm doing alright.

Unknown Speaker (53:09): Yeah. Alright. Grandpa's hit him. Really well.

Unknown Speaker (53:12): Not

Michael O'Neil (53:12): Yeah. This is this is great. You know, you start to feel your age when the people you work with were born after you were hired at the company you work at. That's your sign.

Michael O'Neil (53:24): I mean, one of you two is really old is all I'm gonna say.

Unknown Speaker (53:31): I mean, you're older than me.

Unknown Speaker (53:32): I'm older than you by like what?

Unknown Speaker (53:34): One month, one month, twenty nine days. Twenty nine days.

Michael O'Neil (53:39): Hold up. Are you guys hetero life mates? No. No. No.

Michael O'Neil (53:47): The delay was too long. It's happened.

Unknown Speaker (53:50): You hesitated. You hesitated. Yeah. Have you guys ever

Unknown Speaker (53:58): You guys are all like, look. Let's check our old bourbon and and accept this. Yeah.

Unknown (54:06): That's great. So when is the next release then for you guys?

Michael O'Neil (54:11): Ideally? Currently, we have the reveries with this size, a little bit left on it. Yeah. Which is fire. And then James, what do we have next?

James Lawrence (54:23): May 29, we we've got a 50 to 60 bottle.

Michael O'Neil (54:28): There's no fucking way that has 60 bottles. Here. You guys are lucky.

James Lawrence (54:36): Listen here. So May 29, we've got 40 to 60 bottles. Michael, there's a bigger range for you. We don't know. We we it drilled low.

James Lawrence (54:52): So we've got 40 to 60 bottles of a dream spirits.

Unknown Speaker (54:55): DC

Unknown Speaker (54:55): weeder. Say what? DC weeder.

James Lawrence (55:01): It's a DC Weiner. It's a now defunct distillery out of DC that prob went into kind of cherry picked barrels from before it closed. It's a nine year, when we picked it, it was right around one thirty eight, one thirty nine proof.

Michael O'Neil (55:19): And if you guys know anything about prov, that dude knows how to source barrels. We tried it and we were like, holy shit. And then we tried three different barrels of, from the same place. Sucked the first one because it was the best. If you guys like that dusty note, that little bit of a funk, it does not drink like it's only nine years old.

Michael O'Neil (55:42): It doesn't drink like it was only distilled nine years ago. That one drinks like it's been sitting around for a while. That thing I cannot, I cannot wait to get my hands on

Michael O'Neil (55:52): So how do we, how do we find it? How does anybody else find it?

James Lawrence (55:57): So yeah, go to our Facebook. It's Liberty Barrel Club. Same thing with Instagram. We've also got tick tock or tick tock at Liberty barrel club as well.

Unknown Speaker (56:08): Might

James Lawrence (56:11): need to after, doing all the things to get these pics, but you know,

Michael O'Neil (56:17): we hustle, we reach out,

Unknown Speaker (56:21): we

Michael O'Neil (56:21): gurgle, we cup the balls, work the shot.

Unknown Speaker (56:24): I'm not about all that, but I guess Michael's on that train

Unknown Speaker (56:27): liar. Look at those hands, hold up your hand again.

Unknown Speaker (56:33): These hands be working. Awesome.

Michael O'Neil (56:37): But like, I mean, the crew's always in the poor and we, we talk shit, but we'll sit there and back any of it. I hope we don't run and hide. You know, like, so most of the places that we've talked shit about, we have talked shit too. So it's fine. And if you can't take a joke, fuck you.

Unknown Speaker (56:57): Exactly.

Unknown Speaker (57:00): So I'll, I'll send out some samples of some of our stuff, but I, I wanna try that DC weeder.

Michael O'Neil (57:07): Oh, send it to me because James is a selfish bitch.

James Lawrence (57:10): Well, I'm also leaving at like 09:30 in the morning to go on my honeymoon. I'm gonna be disposed for a little while.

Unknown Speaker (57:20): Did she take

Michael O'Neil (57:22): she take out any insurance policies on you before you go? Just something.

Unknown Speaker (57:27): She did.

Unknown Speaker (57:27): Hold on. Wait.

Unknown Speaker (57:29): Not to my knowledge.

Michael O'Neil (57:30): No, the wife did. She's she's banking on it.

Speaker 6 (57:33): Hello. Hi. The wife is here. I didn't take any.

Unknown Speaker (57:37): Jesus Christ. Why is that hair?

Speaker 6 (57:39): I know it's because it's just, know.

Unknown Speaker (57:42): And I'm still taking her

Unknown Speaker (57:42): like, you know, I didn't take any

Unknown Speaker (57:46): extra care. The

Speaker 6 (57:50): nice thing is that if something happens, I have cabinets on cabinets, on cabinets, of bourbon that if something happens, guess It's mine to sell. It's mine to divvy up.

Michael O'Neil (58:07): I'm gonna come to James' visitation and rob you.

Michael O'Neil (58:14): Well, missus Brother Dolph, let me give you my email address just in case.

Unknown Speaker (58:23): Please send me send me all the information of what you want. Okay.

Unknown Speaker (58:28): Send it over to brother Dolph.

Michael O'Neil (58:34): Well, how long are you going for? How long is your vacation?

Unknown Speaker (58:38): Ten

James Lawrence (58:38): days. We'll we'll be back at the May.

Michael O'Neil (58:41): Nice. So we actually just last month went on a we took five.

Michael O'Neil (58:46): The two of you together? We'd fucking do it.

Unknown Speaker (58:49): No. My wife and I, we took five teenagers on a a seven day cruise. So And nobody got thrown overboard? Nobody? Nobody got robbed.

Michael O'Neil (58:58): The police will be contacting you shortly, sir.

Michael O'Neil (59:02): But I have to recommend a cruise for to that age group.

Unknown Speaker (59:05): Yeah.

Michael O'Neil (59:06): If you ever get there, because feeding five teenagers, that was the best option. You made your money off that one. Yeah. But it's awesome. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (59:18): Wasn't all the

Michael O'Neil (59:19): fucking trooper is all I can say because I've got it. I've got one about to graduate and like it is a battle to not swing on one on occasion.

Unknown Speaker (59:31): Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They, they, they will try you at every moment.

Unknown Speaker (59:40): Yep.

Michael O'Neil (59:40): They will. And then they realize where they got it from, and they're like, fuck. You know, he's on Did it to yourself.

Unknown Speaker (59:49): Exact it you have to stop and think, I I remember doing that.

Unknown Speaker (59:55): So Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (59:57): It's fun. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:00): Well, I appreciate you guys. I appreciate it. Yeah. I

Unknown Speaker (1:00:04): Sir, for having us.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:06): Yep. Guys,

Unknown Speaker (1:00:09): making this work tonight, even though I know James Are we packed?

Unknown Speaker (1:00:14): We are packed. Yeah. Thankfully, we are packed.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:16): Yeah. Yeah. What time do you have to get up in the morning?

James Lawrence (1:00:20): We're gonna get up and work out before we go. So we'll probably get up around 05:30

Unknown Speaker (1:00:26): to be young. To be young,

Michael O'Neil (1:00:29): who the fuck gets up and works out in the morning

Unknown Speaker (1:00:33): before they go on their honeymoon.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:37): He said, are

Unknown Speaker (1:00:39): you flying out? Where are you, where are you going out of?

Unknown Speaker (1:00:42): We're going out of Cincinnati up to Montreal, to Vienna, to Bucharest.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:47): Oh, I'll trip. It's really sad.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:54): What's wrong with Lexington Airport?

Unknown Speaker (1:00:57): Too many people.

Unknown Speaker (1:00:58): Seems a little bit small. Yeah.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:01): It seems a little small.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:02): By a little bit, I mean a lot small. You have

Unknown (1:01:05): to crank your own airplane to get it started.

James Lawrence (1:01:07): Basically. Then you probably have like 12 stops on the way there, but

Unknown Speaker (1:01:11): yeah, I'm used to cranking his own

Unknown Speaker (1:01:12): from Cincinnati. It'll be wonderful. I'm used to crank in my own, much less an airplane.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:16): So A good plane to practice. You're pro. Exactly. Thousand percent.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:21): Now left hand is strong, brother.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:24): Enjoy your trip.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:25): Yeah. Enjoy. Congrats.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:26): Thank you, guys.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:28): Thanks for doing it and You guys are awesome. Exchange some more samples here soon. Appreciate it. Absolutely.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:34): See you guys. Appreciate that.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:35): Thank you, guys.

Unknown Speaker (1:01:37): You. We'll see you.

James Lawrence (1:01:37): Thank you to James and Michael from Liberty Barrel Club for joining us. Please like, share, subscribe, and follow us on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and our website, bourbonbrassandbeyond.com. You can find Liberty Barrel Club on Facebook and Instagram. Thanks for watching.

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