John Wayne Memorabilia, Wild Turkey Comparisons, and Bidaste Online Auctions; Ep. 98

Dan, Steph, Joe, and Brandon: Good evening. Good evening. welcome back to Bourbon Brass and Beyond. Tonight we have special guests. We've got Brandon and Joe from Bidaste. I say it right. Correct. And they have an auction service that does real estate, home consignment, belongings, everything. Estate sales. Estate sales, yeah. And right now you guys have an auction going for John Wayne. memorabilia. We do. It's up and coming next week. This gentleman was a very big collector of John Wayne and Western memorabilia. He outfitted his entire house floor to ceiling with everything and anything John Wayne and Western memorabilia. So how many how many items or or Things have you auctioned off from him already already? Probably thousands. Because this is the third auction. Third auction. Third and final auction. Third and final auction of John Wayne. We did it by floor of his house, and it started with just doing his living room and dining room. And then we went into the three bedrooms, and now we are into the lower level of his house. When we first walked into the house, the living room probably had a hundred statues scattered, you know, throughout the living room. And the walls were covered in John Wayne and Western posters and artwork. Full cardboard cutouts. anything that that was John Wayne was definitely in this house. I mean thousands of D V Ds of Westerns. Yeah, I remember seeing all the D V Ds and VHS and books and I said there is no way anyone could even watch or consume all this media in one lifetime. Right. So I guess when you get in collector mode though, you just you just keep buying. Definitely in collector mode. Well and then to kinda talk about that tonight you brought a special bottle from Duke Spirits. the John Wayne commemorative bourbon, so to speak. So his son Ethan and a and another gentleman named Chris started a spirit company using his dad, John Wayne, and because his dad was a huge bourbon fan. He liked champagne, he liked other things as well, but From what I read, every movie set, he had a case of wild turkey shipped to the set. Wow. So they had that on set. He liked wild turkey one one proof, the eight year stuff. And then when his son Ethan started this bourbon company, they did it as his father liked it. So it's not, so to speak, wild turkey, but it doesn't say where the juice comes from because they don't distill it. is sourced. So I'm guessing they are getting the juice from wild turkey, but huh. Maybe maybe you'll be able to tell when you have a sip. so we'll be drinking that and then we'll be having a couple other wild turkey bourbons tonight. So be able to compare. And see if they put perforation on this. So while you're opening that, let's just talk about how you guys decided to name your company. So our our company is bidaste.com and aste in Italian means auction, so bid auction, which is a little bit of homage to our grandparents immigrated to this country and wanted to come here to make a better life for themselves and for their future family. And so they did that for my parents and aunts and uncles. And then they worked hard to build a better life for us. And so we came up with the Bidaste name as a homage to our our family, who who came over and immigrated here. and so that's how we came up with the the bid aste, the aste being you know auction in Italian. Yeah. 'Cause initially I just thought it was Biddist, right? And I'm sure a lot of people think it's biddist because we're From America and we don't know how to pronounce anything. But then I heard you saying bidaste, and I thought, okay, that sounds a little bit, you know, like I said a little bit Spanish be you know, and then wouldn't you just explain it's Italian? I was like, well that makes a lot of sense because Italian is a lot like Spanish in certain ways. and you guys are father-son, right? Or okay. So I we had talked about this too, and I'm like I don't know. so what's your relationship? We're just good friends that work together. Okay. We both we both met working in the auction industry. Okay. And decided that let's time they're going around do things the way we would like to do work consignments and deal with consigners how we like to be treated and how we felt people should be treated. And so we got together, created a created a business. Yeah. And have been fortunate that it's been very successful. People have been very receptive to the company and been fortunate to have a wide variety of of auctions. Well you guys are really nice and we always love dealing with you and I was kinda like Brandon's like he's a ginger and I don't know that could be his dad. But then I don't know who his mom is, right? But I always kinda got got the feeling 'cause you guys sort of act like father son. You know, you you We're together so much. We just we know each other. And you have a business together. So I guess I kinda thought maybe you were, maybe you weren't, but I was a little suspect. Not not at all. You're not the first one. we just seem to mesh well and and do well together and Yeah. When you work with Somebody so much they start finishing your sentences for you. So you work for other companies and then so you already kind of knew what you were doing and then you were able to just go out on your own and do it the way you wanted and the way you wanted people to be treated and that sort of thing. Absolutely. Yeah. So I'm just gonna t talk about this real quick. This is a hand selected barrel aged a minimum of five years, so it's five years old in the great state of Kentucky. this one was bottled in twenty twenty two. It says the original recipe was 1962. Founder Ethan Wayne, founder and blender CVR. I know his name was Chris. This is the original recipe. 88 proof. 44% alcohol. So Yeah. Cheers. Cheers. Cheers. yeah. That's turkey. That's turkey. So so to me, wild turkey has this a little bit of a funk on the nose. But it's a good funk. But it's a a little bit you get a little bit of the rye, a little bit of that pepper. Okay. And I like it. And I'm sorry, how many years is this? I was I had to text five years old. Five years old, yeah. Okay. So so it's young but low proof. Yeah. Okay. I had to text Mallory that our food had arrived, so Yeah, it's nice. And with eighty eight proof you can tell that it's not as sweet. But it's nice. You get a lot of the flavor. You don't get a lot of bite, but you you can taste the pepper. Yeah. A little bit of taste of the pepper, but I'd say it's it's quite drinkable. You get a little bit of the funk on the aftertaste. Yeah. Just kinda hit me. Yeah, I like it. No, you said you're not much of a a drinker. Brandon, do you drink bourbon or just not really? Not really. Okay. So what do you think of that? It's pretty smooth. Okay. you took it down in one sip, so not not too strong, but it's one sip at that age, yeah. Now I thought it got a little more of the I could get more of the peppery to it. That's probably most of it. Or do you just think that's a wild turkey? I think it's a wild turkey. It it it's got a higher a little bit higher rye in the mash. And I that's why I keep sipping it, waiting, 'cause I'm the the flavors kind of layer, right? So the first sip I'll get more of the ethanol if it's if it's more of that that ethanol or alcohol bite. And then the second sip I'll start to get more of the sweetness. And the third sip I'll I tend to get more of the rye or the pepper. but this is nice and even. So nice. Other than getting little of the pepper on the tongue, I think it's not really giving me the Kentucky hug as it goes down. So No. It's gotta be the proof. It's a lower proof, you know. Yeah. Not bad. No. Bust it out. Bust it out at a party. Everyone's happy. Exactly. Sure. So one of the funny stories I read about John Wayne was that his son was doing an interview with Ethan. They were talking about they they had a a yacht, a hundred and thirty six foot yacht, which used to be a World War Two minesweeper. And they had it converted to be a yacht. Wow. As you do. As you do, yeah. And he would take it to Alaska. And if they could find an iceberg, they'd pull up next to the iceberg and chip ice off of the iceberg. And then they'd put that into the coolers and use that for their drinks. Which is wild too, because don't you learn anything from the Titanic? I mean, don't you feel like if you're getting close to a glacier, you might if you're John Wayne and you own a former minesweeper, you don't worry about it. You don't care. Yeah. Well I tend to think John Wayne yeah didn't care much. He just did what he wanted to do. Yeah. I don't think he was scared of it. Obviously. It's not something I would think of doing. That's good. I wouldn't think of converting an an old minesweeper into a yacht either. I might think of it. You might think of it. Well it's like Jacque Cousteau had that old ship that he traveled, rode in doing the undersea exploration, the calypso. Yeah. It was an old mind sweeper. Well, when someone has creativity and the money, well that's when they can do all that crazy shit. True. Might have been wild turkey doing all the talking. Right. He had cases of wilds where he got there like, Let's just pull over that glacier. Get some ice. Exactly. Those are probably wild times. Cause he died in what did you say, seventy nine? Nineteen seventy nine. Yeah. So different times for sure. Yeah. So, you guys doing all these auctions, what do you see that you think you would think has value but people just don't buy? So one thing that I always see are grandfather clocks. Or pianos, right? And I assume that's just a a hauling issue. But what do what else do you guys see that you're like, I feel like this should be selling for good money and then it goes out the door for thirty bucks. China cabinets and buffets. Yeah. Those are going out of fashion, right? They are. Yeah. Dining room sets still. It it's come to the point now where we even split. the sets and sell the table and chairs separate from the cabinet. Yeah. Because you would think that someone would want the whole set. No. And w I mean we take we have people that will come get the table and chairs. If the cabinet's included, they'll take the top half of the cabinet and go right to the landfill with it. Take the bottom half of the cabinet, paint it to whatever mainly white. and repurpose it to a a bourbon bar or a coffee bar. and they want it more of s a statement piece than they want the China cabin. And I'm just amazed because of the craftsmanship of the older furniture is incredible. Yeah, it is. But people d I mean, they don't even look at it. Yeah. so when we bought this house we did Buy what a lot of what was in it, which did include a couple dining room tables and the matching cabinets, buffets. But honestly, there was one down here. We and we just recently got rid of it because what do we need that for? You know? And actually when we moved in here, he had left us with five dumpsters full of of things because he had had an auction the day we moved in and a lot of things didn't sell. Because he did it he did a strictly live auction. Which I don't understand why he did that. Because he only you know there were maybe 15, 20 people here. Yeah please. Yeah though the market has definitely changed to online. Yeah. people's time is valuable today. They don't wanna come stand here on a Wednesday night or Saturday morning for two, three hours waiting for one item to come up for auction. They don't get that item and then they have to drive back home and they're like, Man, I wasted my whole day here. That's true. you know, so it's it's just the way that the you have to adapt to what people want. It's you know, may not necessarily be what what an auctioneer wants. I mean I don't get to use my auction chant nearly as much. but I tell people I've been replaced by a computer. I mean that's just that's just what it is. But you have to adapt, otherwise you're going to have yeah, ten or fifteen people standing here buying things for minimum and we feel you're doing a disservice to your customer. For sure. when he had that auction here I attended and you know, they they were grouping things you know, huge groupings of things and sometimes it would go for a dollar. I would get, you know, twenty, you know, pieces of art, paintings, whatever, for a dollar. And it was just wild. So yeah, I I do think you can get a better deal probably if you're willing to go to the live auction. But being able to go online and see what you're doing and do some research on those things and actually know what they are, like Is this a value? Like is this something is this a good piece that I'd want to put in my home? That's definitely a benefit of the online auction. And then you guys are gonna make more money for the client as well. Even then you're not just getting local, you're getting statewide, national. I mean we've shipped things Japan before. Really? Yeah. Wow. Well he sold a what was it? A Schwin? Mm-hmm. That's wild. Yeah. I mean there's it's it just opens up such a bigger audience. Yeah. I mean even just we just sold some some classic cars, a nineteen twelve Cadillac. and you know the guy came from Michigan and came with a car hauler and loaded it up and and was thrilled to get it and and took it back with him. I have to keep these auctions away from Dan 'cause No, you can't do that. I don't think we have any room for any more cars. So this is the 70th anniversary release of the eight-year 101 proof. So this is the Jimmy Russell 70th anniversary of him working at Wild Turkey. wow. So Jimmy Russell was the master distiller emeritus now. His son Eddie Russell has taken over, and Eddie Russell's now been there for 45 years. And Bruce Russell is the third generation. He is now the master blender. So he's you know, Eddie's still in charge, but Bruce is coming up as well. And like Bruce came out with this wild turkey gold foil edition, which is just fantastic as well. But so this one would be the current version of what John Wayne would drink. Okay. And so cheers. Cheers. This one tastes a bit bittier to me. get more of that rye, more of that pepper. Yeah. But it tastes very similar to that. It's very smooth. Yeah. But you get a little more sweetness too. So you get more of the pepper, but you get a little more sweetness. sweetness comes at the end a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Well it well you gotta get through all that swallowing art. So the the it's gonna be a little oilier. or more viscous because it's not watered down as much. So they prove it down. When it comes out of the barrel, you're coming out at probably 110 to 115. And then whatever they bottle it at, they will add water to it to get it down to that proof. So like that Duke is 88 proof. So they add a little bit of water to it. This one's only 101, so it's just just a hair. Now new bottlings or anything post-1989, the alcohol goes into the barrel, out of the still, at 125 proof. Prior to 89, it went in at 105 proof. So when it was done, it was at a lower proof, but then they didn't have to add as much water. So those older ones are a lot more oily or viscous, you get a lot longer finish. Which is why I'm always looking for older bourbons. Because it was just made different and a lot of people will say had a lot more flavor. Now, something newer to get that same flavor, you're gonna be at hundred and fifteen, hundred and twenty proof, which makes it hot. You know, so there's that give and take. So that's why I l I do like the older stuff. And but this is the hundred and one proof, the current version of the hundred and one proof eight year old. And then what we'll sip on next is a nineteen eighty three version of that. And you will see quite a difference in flavor and what we call mouthfeel viscosity and then how that flavor sticks. It it's Yeah. And of course these are all the same mash bill, so they all probably come from the same still, the same warehouses. really? Yeah. Yeah, I think overall I like the wild turkey. It's got a little bite, but it always kinda smooths out for me. Mm-hmm. It I it just it's such a nice product. Yeah, for sure. And what's your favorite? Mm. I would five. Top five. I would say I add the grouping favorites. the wild turkey i would have to say either that gold foil or that russell's reserve so this is an another low barrel entry proof this was pre them ramping up that barrel entry proof this one's only 89 proof and it is so sweet and so flavorful i mean that's that's one of my favorites the Pappy 15 Pappy van winkel 15 year One of my favorite. I anything in that line is phenomenal. I have some older ones, the older Dusties. that that new that JW Dant you picked up from nineteen eighties. I have a nineteen seventy-one Yellowstone. nineteen seventy six old granddads, nineteen seventy five. Old stuff. I I do like the old stuff. It's gotta be hard to pick one. It well, and it's just like anything else where they all have such different flavor profiles. So what are you in the mo mood for? You know, so it it's like, well I tend to like wheated bourbons. So like the Papper Van Winkle line or the Weller line do really well. But like the Eagle Rare or the George T. Stag, even the old Taylor, I mean, they're all good. They're all fantastic. He cannot pick he cannot choose. Well like you say, it depends on what kind of what you're in the mood for. Yeah. Yeah. Lots of choices. So what are you guys excited about? About some auctions coming up. Tell us about it. Well, this John Wayne's gonna be just crazy with all the difference. from life size cutouts, there's a floor lamp that's a John Wayne floor lamp. So which would be awesome for someone who's really into John Wayne. Right. Exactly. like I said there's still a couple thousand DVDs I think to go. there's some there's some there's some prop guns which which are really cool. I think I saw those. but then we we switch right over to we're doing a lapidary auction. And that's what I said when they called. but l Lapidary is someone who takes rocks and literally the stones, cuts them in half and then takes and slices pieces off, sells them to jewelers to make jewelry. Okay. And so this gentleman retired. Yeah. And he has some get that last drop. He has some lapidary equipment and then a bunch of slabs and stones that we're gonna sell for him. so if you're into into jewelry making or you just wanna give it a give it a try. and that's the cool thing. We go from two completely opposite different things, and then the next day we're selling vehicles. Right, so we are in the market for a vehicle because we have just gotten a permit for our second driver. So my son fortunately sort of inherited a car from my dad. but now we've got our second driver just got the permit a couple days ago. And so we're kind of looking for something, you know, that first car type of thing. Can't be too nice or too comfortable because then Ford Bronco? He's particular with the car, so I don't know. what year Ford Bronco? Two thousand twenty one. It's only got what thirty thousand miles. Badlands edition. We could put you into the Cadillac if you'd like what What year is the Cadillac? Nineteen ninety seven Cadillac Deville. We'll have no problem traveling around in the snow. Very safe, 'cause it's is like a tank, yeah. It's a V eight, fully loaded. V eight. Power door window. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's the full size one, it's not the small one, right? No, it's a f yeah, the full size. But it's still front wheel drive. Yes. Yep. Yeah. I told him though, I said, Yeah, we'll put him in that giant tank and he won't get hurt but like I'll say, Hey, I think like the back right of the car is like missing now. Like wha what did you do out there? But you know, that first car, I feel like you're always scratching something. You're running into a pole. You're Yeah. You're not gonna You remember mine. You're learning those you're not gonna You learn those yellow poles in the parking lot, don't move. Exactly. And you know, he has a Tesla and I said, But you can't make your kids' first car a Tesla. Like it's it's just too it's too nice. It's too comfortable. And then you can't go backwards, right? Well the only thing is you can control everything. Like you can put a max speed, you can control I mean you can Well, they need to learn how to drive it. Well Yeah, they'll jaw break it in a heartbeat. That's the only thing. Right. They do that with their phones, they do that with everything. They need to have some crappy car and then when they make enough money they can buy a nicer car. They can I had to build my first car. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Get all the parts and tell to get to work. I think he could do it too. He is why loves that stuff. So I that we did sell what'd you sell a nineteen what was that Ford? That was literally in parts and pieces. Nineteen thirty. That was a Model A, wasn't it? Model A. It was literally in pieces. I mean all parts and pieces. Now have you built your your own car? Either of you? No. No, okay. We just look for deals at auctions and buy that way. So my grandfather had a a car lot, a used car lot out on five fifty-eight. Okay. corner of Fairfield School Road in five fifty-eight. That was my grandparents' farm. So I grew up going to the auctions with my grandpa. Right. Hell, I started driving cars home from the auctions when I was fourteen. So I he yeah, he has all kinds of of crazy stories about driving back. Driving back from karate tournaments at age thirteen because his dad got hurt. And I'm like, what are you talking about? From Reading, Pennsylvania. Yeah, on the turnpike. He j he lived a much crazier life than I did. I was like, I never drove a car till I was of age. We were just talking about going up Route eleven and how once you get past like eighty two you kinda open it up and let it go. And sure enough, as where you're saying it Here comes somebody by at about one twenty. The Autobot. Well, because there's no like Route eleven is very small. Right, it's just I got a good friend of mine who lives in Ashtopiola. So Either going seventy or going ninety. There's no in between. Right. Right lane, left lane. What do you want to be in? So this is the same proof, same age, except this was bottled in nineteen eighty three. So it was distilled in nineteen seventy five. So you tell me what you think the difference is between Small it's not as strong, I don't think. Yeah, the smell is a lot lighter. Not as peppery either. It's easier to go down. Yeah. It's a lot smoother. Mm-hmm. Yeah. So that's kind of the difference then with the older ones. They always just feel smooth and easy to drink. That's why I like them. Because I don't really like those peppery, strong bourbons. No. And I yeah, this was one of my favorites, I would say. Yeah, good thing you got another bottle of it. This was also well, you know, sort of from an auction. We went it was a different company. Sorry. We didn't know you existed yet. Actually, we only knew we only kind of found out about these these online auctions and places like you guys because, you know, the person who owned here had an auction. And I was like, this is a thing. So I kind of started following theirs and they had an auction. I think it was in Silver Lake. It was up near Akron. Stoke, yeah. And we went into the basement and there were We were looking for a piano. Okay. Saying we were looking for a player piano. Okay. yes. Grand piano. Yeah, it was this one had it. And then while we start looking, there was bourbon barrel furniture. Like, that's kinda cool. So we ended up going, taking a look, and then I I asked what Yeah we found these Wild turkeys. Actually the grand old granddaugh and the wild turkeys. So yeah. Yeah. And of course that was a private transaction of you know Yeah, we'll take care of those. Now with this John Wayne auction, there was a bourbon barrel bar and a pool table. Is the new owner of the house taking those? We're selling the bourbon barrel. Is on auction? It is on auction. Okay. The pool table is staying with the house. Okay. That's another one of those things that you talk about, you think they should have all kinds of value. And then someone spends fifty bucks for it. And they think they're gonna move it themselves. And they're gonna and they're gonna carry it up out of the basement. Of course. And and they think that they're just gonna carry it up and they're gonna wreck a wall. So having moved a piano or I'm sorry, a pool table out of the basement with me and one other person before, and it was a one piece slate. Okay. Never do that shit again. No thanks. No. And it's not only that, it's it's a professional job. You need someone to come in there, take it apart professionally, set it up professionally, because a pool table, my dad was a really great billiards player and you have to have it leveled, like there are so many things that go into a pool table for someone to think they can just kinda like yank it out and throw it in their car. It's kinda humorous to me. It's kinda the same as a piano. Like you you need to have someone come and and do that for you. But again, I mean, when we got our piano it probably cost what, four or five hundred dollars to have someone move it. And I assume it's probably the same for a pool table. So you figure if you're buying that pool table, you're you have that expense built in. Unless you're gonna just bring a buddy and be like, hey, I'll give me a pack of beer. Pizza and beer. Is your truck rebel mister Buddha? I guess you can do that too. Yeah. Do it the cheap way. We're too old. That's what we say. Le leave we are auctioneers, we are not movers. Leave the moving to the professionals. Yeah. Hire a company that there's plenty of that will gladly come out and take care of that. Yeah. And that's how we prefer it. And you have to save your back. 'Cause you're young enough you don't wanna you don't wanna mess it up. Yeah. Yeah. I like to be healthy when I'm older. Right. Right. Okay, so the bourbon I don't know that we have any space left. For a bourbon barrel bottle. Well we could sell something for make some room in there. Yeah, we're gonna need an auction in this house just for all my hoarding. I'm sure we can buy a spot for a bourbon. Well, I think you did say something about it, like it could replace this table and you could do your podcast standing. this one. you don't wanna do that. Yeah, I don't no. I I've I've come to appreciate the sitting. Okay. During the podcast. Yeah. So Yeah, what what all's going on? I know they're I remember picking up from one of the first auctions. Double barrel. Yeah, that's nice. I did recently look at that. I think I showed you that. Yeah. Yeah. I remember coming to the first the first or second auction pickup and someone was just buying all those John Wayne posters. And the back of her car, I mean she must have bought 200. She came from West Virginia. It was wild. But there's a market for it. You know, in the resale industry, if if you get known for, you know, John Wayne memory or just like we did a jewelry auction, you know, a couple of our jewelry buyers that resell. Yeah. They they have the market, you know, for it to resell and they also have the time where they're gonna lay out each piece. where we're dealing with thousands of pieces a week. you know, multiple customers, multiple schedules, so it's We have to weigh the you know, the time to do that versus the value versus cost. Right. You can't be sitting on things, you gotta get out And that's our you know, that's our goal is to move things for clients because a lot of them are under a deadline of if they're downsizing or moving or an occasion we get a call, like he got a call yesterday and we met out met with a gentleman and you know, we ask, you know, what's your time frame? So we can plan and he said, I have to be out by the end of the month. and I'm like So we're like, It's gonna be tough for 'cause you guys have to get in there and ca take pictures and catalog, you know. Yeah. And then it just takes time, you have to market and advertise, otherwise no one's gonna know about your auction and you're not gonna have a successful auction. But I've seen a lot of the ones you do, it says like short notice because I'm sure you have a lot of people that say, I don't care, just get it out of It has to last a second. I want this gone. Yeah. They call and say, I sold my house and it's it's closing on Friday at noon. And I have to have everything out. my god. Those are fun. Yeah. Or we have an auction where we're doing the auction and somebody calls and says, Why are you having an auction at my house? And we say, Well we were talking so no. we bought that house two weeks ago. It closed. They just haven't moved out yet. That's our house now. And that creates a whole new right legal you know, legal wrangling on. Hav having kind of been through that almost Yeah. Yeah. It is a little interesting. Yeah, it's a whole thing. Our previous owner decided to have an auction the last day. So you're trying to move in and people are still dragging stuff out? there's still four dumpsters of stuff in the back driveway. Well, luckily I do have to say the the people doing the auction, they did us a favor and they moved everything out of the house into the back driveway. That was something they didn't have to do. They did it. I think they felt terrible for us. Yeah. But we had to replace all the carpeting, so we weren't moving in right then anyway. But who wants to have to throw five dumpster dumpsters dumpsters? Yeah. How is that bourbon? Yeah. Too much wild turkey off dinner. Turkey got your tongue. but we threw away things that probably shouldn't have been thrown away, but at the same time we couldn't get into our driveway. Yeah. Yeah. So It puts you in a bad situation. And we've we've done that where people said, I cleaned everything out and we go through the dumpster and say, No, put take this back out. Take this and so now we always encourage people don't throw anything away until we come out and take a look. And then if we tell you to throw it away We'll tell you. Yeah. But sometimes p people don't realize something they think is of no value actually has more value than some of the things that are still in the house. Pool table. Right. China cabinet. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, my my mom, her my grandma passed away and my grandma and grandpa were they kept everything. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And they went through their house for a long time. Luckily the people who bought the house were they're people who rent houses out and do auctions and things. So did they get a terrific deal? Yes, they did. My grandpa was a Cummins mechanic and he had a giant garage bigger than the house that could, you know, accommodate trucks. So they got everything in there. But I tried to go through there, it was just overwhelming. It's just too much. And you're you're kind of at that point like, yeah. And then you have to just let it go. And that's what happens. It's it's overwhelming for people. And when you're, you know, personally and emotionally attached. It makes it harder because every item you pick up brings back memories or a story. and so it makes it hard to go through. And that's why when we come in, you know, we try to be compassionate to your situation, but we don't want to be personalized because it helps us move through things at a much faster pace. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But that's what I love about bourbon too though. It's like Yes, they all taste pretty good, but it's the stories that you know, there's a story behind every just like the John Wayne stuff. I mean that's the huge story. Or the the age on a bottle or a new release, you know, people talk about. There's a story there and that that's hard to let go of. That's my favorite part about it. You know, actually talking about it and drinking and trying things and telling the stories. That's that's my favorite. Well it's just like that with the John Wayne and they're keeping his legacy going. you know, by creating what recipe they had and it's being carried down yeah. Generations. And again, that's also nice, you know, to have enough money that you just like, yeah, let's just create a bourbon. Right. You know. It's not terrible. Not a bad idea. Yeah. But yeah, also in my grandma's house I found that, you know, what my mom and my aunt thought were valuable wasn't and what they didn't was. And so I brought a lot of stuff home. I did. 'Cause they didn't care. My my aunt pulled out this musical instrument and I took a picture of it and they were selling for like six or seven hundred dollars on eBay. And I mean they probably would have sold it for five bucks at you know what at a garage sale and another one. Is this the gold foil? This is the gold foil. Thank you. But I saw you guys have I mean you guys have a lot of auctions up now, like seven or eight. Yep. They're constantly or fifteen, I can't keep counting. I know I was like, when is this ending? It's it's like one or two go down, huh? Three go up. Yeah. But the John Wayne ends which day? Wednesday. Next Wednesday. Next Wednesday. When's this when's this podcast coming out? So I was gonna put it out maybe Saturday or Sunday. Is that alright? Perfect, yeah. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Or I could even get it out. So if you're listening to it, it's gonna be out. Is that what's the date on that? The twenty that one closes on Wednesday the twenty first. Twenty first. Then yeah, we'll do that out soon. Six PM, yep. We'll do it out sooner. Okay. I just I go through, edit, you know. Like us, you gotta crop the pictures, make sure everything looks nice. Yeah. I didn't spell anything wrong. Take out all the ums and uhs and yeah. Make sure it sounds good. Awesome. So this is a new release this year. hasn't it's hard to get. It's it's the Austin Nichols archives 'cause you'll notice on that old wild turkey bottle it says Austin Nichols. Well they took that name off and But so this is the Austin Nichols archives. This is a hundred and twenty proof. wow. He's trying to convert you to bourbon. And it's sixteen years old. So it's the same mash bill, it's the same juice that went into the barrel. But this one's aged sixteen years and you didn't get one. Did you want to try it? No. I don't want to take your good stuff. Everybody He just wants to share. Alright, I'm gonna try a little bit. I don't wanna I just didn't wanna So what do you like to drink? I mean how how old are you? Twenty six. Okay. So what do you like to drink? Are you just Are you into beer? Are you into any I'm not a huge beer fan. Okay. I like wine. Okay. Here and there. never really tried bourbon. I mean I think I've tried it before, but not a whole lot. And if you're drinking cheaper bourbon In my opinion it's awful. It's terrible and I would never want to drink it, even in a mixed drink. I like I like bourbon. I mean it's pretty good. Yeah. Mm-hmm. And I mean, if you're looking for something that's always readily available, it's what the the buffalo trays, just the regular buffalo trace, right? Is it's pretty well it's not But if you're s if you're just like kind of starting into bourbon, I think that's a solid choice for someone to just go pick up. It's only like t what, thirty bucks. Yeah. So you don't have to stand in line in front of the liquor store at seven in the morning waiting. If you do drive by Chalet, that's Dan out there. I've driven by a few times and seen guys standing up there at at seven, eight in the morning waiting. You probably those are the late guys. So if they know there's something good coming out in a drop They'll be there at ten PM the night before. wow, okay. Mm-hmm. But we have some great conversations, you know, show a little bit while we're out there. Yeah. Yeah. It's fun. Right up until they get ready to open the door. They come out and give you tickets on like at like four in the morning, right? And then you can come home and sleep and go back. Okay, so that's nice. Yeah. It's a little more potent. A little more potent, but it's also a lot sweeter. Sweeter too. Mm-hmm. I get butterscotch, a little bit of orange, that rye. Are you getting any of these flavors? 'Cause to be honest, I don't I don't get any of the flavors. I mean I get the bite first. You know, that's what that's what jumps at me right away is the bite. And then it's like, okay, that and then it starts smoothing out and you can start getting the other stuff. Yeah, it does. Yeah. So I think the Yeah. You get the flavors, I just kinda get And I will say it took it took me a while. You know, it you start to recognize things and you start to pick up smells and tastes. And you always put in context of what you're familiar with. Because Fred Minnick said it that you know, you pick up most of your flavor palette by the time you're eight years old. So when you try something later on after that, it's always going to go back to one of those initial flavors that you learn by the time you're eight years old. I think when I was eight I was just trying to eat all the all the candy I could. I was like, How do I get Sneaking in the fridge getting some snacks. You know. Going out of the penny candy store. yeah. Gorging. This one seems to last a little bit longer. Yeah. It just doesn't so it's to me it just doesn't disappear, just still lingering. So it's a little bit higher proof. but it also has a lot more tannins in it because it was in the barrel longer. So for sixteen years you're gonna pull out more of the oils and more of the tannins and vanillins out of the wood, for each season. So yeah, this is this is a really nice Bruce Russell did this, blended this from barrels. You're a big fan of I'm a huge fan. And it's a little darker too, so is that from absorbing Yes. Okay. So the barrels are charred, right? And the char actually filters the fluid as it goes in and out of the wood. So as it gets hot, the fluid expands, it goes into the wood, almost to almost to the very edge. And then as it gets cold again in the wintertime, it contracts and all that fluid comes back out into the barrel. So you get this mixing in and out and that's what brings those vanillas, those oils. what they call it? Jason Bronner. He he had the name for the estroles or it was something I'm not gonna try to pronounce it. I don't know. Yeah, I don't but but the the eugenols. Eugenols were the was the name. So it's like the fatty the the fatty lipids of of the wood. go in and out. and it's just age does I really like old I like this better now that this is my fourth bourbon than I did the first time I tried it. I came down and someone's like, hey you want to try this and I was kinda like, whoa, whoa. Yeah. Yeah. And this is a fresh crack. These were all fresh cracks tonight. So a lot of times with bourbon, a fresh crack it needs to open up for a couple of weeks. So you open the bottle, let it air out for 10, 15 minutes, close it back up, put it on the shelf and let it sit for two, three weeks. When you come back to it, it's gonna have a little bit different profile and taste than one you did when you initially had it. Because it lets off a little bit of the ethanol, it allows a little bit of oxygen. I don't know that it actually gets to the oxygen actually makes a chemical reaction, or is it just releases some of that initial ethanol? but it does make a huge difference. Like I I had this So your bottle will taste different in a couple of weeks. Yeah. Sure. So I had that wood producer of double double oak. When I first had it, I like it. Two months later, one of my favorites. That's very dark. Yeah. But I I I do like the the darker, older stuff. Yeah. Mm. That was very interesting. Wild turkey to the Duke. Yeah, wild turkey. Love it. I do like a wild turkey. So is the other bottle full? Has it been open? The other bottle of the eighty three? It has been opened. I opened it for the bottle share at Monks Road. You did? for you and JD. Yeah. Okay. See some of the some of the stuff that I like I try to hide it. I think we're all out of that one. Yeah, I I don't know where that is, Dan. I'm sorry. I think your kids drank it. I still have the eighty three. Yeah, okay, well that's very full. I'm sure when they bring their friends over they're probably in shock, huh? We're gonna get more cameras, I think, because as these kids get older you know I Wyatt's buddy follows the podcast religiously. Yeah. He even Dom. Dom loves it. Okay. But I I know when we were growing up, I I honestly I didn't drink in high school 'cause I was scared of like my coaches or parents. Someone finding out. but I know there were people that their parents had bourbon and other drinks and they would drink it and then they would fill it back up with water. And if that happened to any of these, that would be very bad. Dan would be very angry. We need like we need a bunch of surveillance. Dan Dan might be king off a couple of kids. It might be a problem. Mad Dan. You can find You can find We've got a big yard, some you know, very big ones. That's right. See yeah. But what are you guys what are you excited for? What do you Yeah, what do you got coming up? It's for us it changes every day and that's to for that's what we like. It it's not the same you know, the same thing. But yes, w I mean we've got a a steady diet of furniture and collectibles and and antiques. We just did a primitive sale last night which was was kinda neat. We there was an old from the local grocer, Youngstown Wholesale Grocery and Alcohol. it was it was it was a two gallon jug. Yeah. And it's a stoneware jug. Yeah, it did a hundred and twenty dollars, I think. Yeah. you just don't see those often. So that that's you know, things like that are neat. And then we've got some stickly furniture, sign stickly chair, which is those aren't as common as what they used to be. So those jugs used to be the way that people would go get whiskey because you didn't buy it by the bottle. You went to some distributor that you would actually go up to it. So they'd put a tap in a barrel and you put it up. I guess back in the day you're just like, there's nothing else to do. Let's just drink. You could actually blend your own whiskey by just having, you know But the problem was there was no way to guarantee what was in those barrels. So you might die. Yeah. No big deal. Well well what it would be, it would be rectified grain neutral spirits and then they'd add in like tobacco spit or prune juice or something to give it a color and say then call it whiskey. And that's why they came out with the bottled in bond act of eighteen ninety seven. So they're bottle was empty. Yes. But that's one of those things. That's another thing. The the crocs, the salt grlazed crocs and jugs just seem to hold their value. I mean they've gone down a little bit from previous years, but they they still tend to hold a a pretty good value, as long as they're not, you know, chipped and cracked. And that's what we run across a lot of. I wish we would have saved all those jug those crocs for my grandma's farm. When we cleaned out the basement, we cleaned out the attic, but when I was young, we cleaned out the basement of the farmhouse. And there were twenty fifteen gallon crocs filled with lard down in the basement. You know, and that probably been there for sixty, seventy years. That stuff was actually still good. See, we could have had a lard auction with you guys? Lar large lard auction. Yeah. But you never know what you know you And and it's funny because sometimes we will see something and we'll Tim and I'll say, What did we miss there? Because there was a box lot of something that did four hundred dollars and we'll say, Wow, we must have missed and but that's the beauty of the auction is that our clients Yeah didn't miss it. They seen it right and the market still took care of itself. Right. And and that's what's nice. So Sometimes you think, maybe you missed something, but the the market, you know, we always tell people, you know, we can bring the willing able buyers to the table. They're gonna tell us what it's gonna sell for today. I mean we we we don't set the price. Unfortunately. Yeah. Well, it's funny, you walk in at first glance and you're like That's not gonna do anything and then it does three hundred dollars. Yeah. Man, I was wrong. Yeah. Well that's what sometimes I you know, 'cause I'm always like jumping on your auctions to see like what's on there and sometimes I look at the prices and I'm like, What the Okay. Well Do I have any of those? Yeah, I'm like, So right now what, uranium glass is hot? Is it still it's still still pretty Hens on a Nest are still hot. Yeah. Fairy lamps. And I think you know a lot of it comes with trends. You know, TikTok videos, everybody sees it, they gotta have it. Yeah. Demand for it you know goes up. Yeah. Prices go up. I did I bought those turkeys on nest from that one auction you guys had and so I had four of them. Calculate Yeah, those sold pretty well. And I did get the fairy lamp. I have that up for sale, but I haven't had anyone purchase that yet. But it's also one of those things I'm like, well if I don't get my price I do like it. So this one doesn't have to go. Yeah, there's always that too. Like I'm not lowering price. Like half half collector, half seller. let let me put the price just a little higher if it doesn't sell. A lot of stuff I keep and so we don't want anybody to bid on the bourbon barrel bar. Right. We want it to go for a dollar. So is there anything else that what are the key things on this auction that you think are gonna be something I I think that the prop guns are are really cool. I think the John Wayne floor lamp is really neat. what I'll do is I'll get pictures. Okay. I'll go to the website with your permission. Sure, of course. Yeah. And post it with this. Yeah. 'Cause you can do actually do a picture like with the picture but also the description. So you could do it that way too. Like it's kind of in a little I don't know, you do you do what you want to do. I believe I'm not going. So you know what, you do what you do. We'll go ahead and we'll say bar sold prior to auction. Thanks to available. Yeah. did buy some things from the f first or second auction. I bought these like chalkware hula hula girls. And those sold literally the next day. The same guy bought both of them and I thought, okay, these are popular. So we got some decanters from that. Yeah but And that's the nice thing. It's it's sometimes somebody sees something on our auction that does real well and the next week we'll get five or six phone calls. I have one of those. Can you sell it for me? I and they they kinda Yeah you know, piggyback onto each other. Yeah. So that that always is is nice too when when the phone starts ringing because somebody's seen the price is realized. That's true. Well, I'm happy for you guys that you're doing so well. Thank you. And obviously through the winter, I assume like you'll continue to do well because people can't have yard sales or garage sales. Really it's it's too cold. Yeah, for sure. That's right. I think so you know, the like we said, the the bourbon you brought over it needs to open up a bit. bit so yeah you're you'll have to come back and we'll just we'll drink it. Maybe the next one will be something that has to do with you know, Buffalo Trace or Yeah. We we can alternate. So the website, bidaste dot com. B I D A S T E. B I D A S T E dot com. Okay, we'll link that in the show notes. Awesome. And Yeah, then let us know when it's up and then we'll And you obviously ship you ship worldwide. Ship worldwide literally worldwide. So anybody, regardless of where they are, can buy. And I don't like to give out that information because this is my this is my little Usually I realize I'm like, that's too popular. It's going for too much. I'm not I'm out, but yeah, I see you guys doing really well. So yeah, thank you. Happy for you guys. So John Wayne auction, memorabilia auction and had the Duke Spirit. So once again, thanks for coming. like, subscribe, share, go to bidaste dot com or bourbonpod.com and you can also see the notes there. So Thanks for watching. Okay. Good night.