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Sept. 8, 2026

Eagle Rare Store Pick and Rock Hill Farms with Alex Derthick; Ep. 85

Eagle Rare Store Pick and Rock Hill Farms with Alex Derthick; Ep. 85
Eagle Rare Store Pick and Rock Hill Farms with Alex Derthick; Ep. 85
Bourbon, Brass & Beyond
Eagle Rare Store Pick and Rock Hill Farms with Alex Derthick; Ep. 85

Dan and Alex open an Eagle Rare 10 Year store pick and explore what makes it such a memorable bourbon. Their tasting covers the bottle’s extra age, smooth 90-proof profile, and notes of vanilla, caramel, orange, cherry cola, and gentle rye spice.



The conversation expands into a broader discussion about bourbon value, store picks, dusty bottles, Blanton’s, Rock Hill Farms, bottle collecting, and the challenge of finding allocated whiskey at a fair price. Alex shares why Rock Hill Farms remains one of his favorite bottles, while Dan compares Eagle Rare’s 10 and 12 year expressions and explains why store picks can offer a more distinctive experience.



Along the way, they discuss bourbon tourism, distillery visits, bottle shares, cork preservation, aging warehouses, old bottle prices, and the personal stories behind their collections. The episode closes with thoughts on the Kentucky Derby, bourbon friendships, and the importance of buying bottles to enjoy—not simply to resell.



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Dan and Alex open an Eagle Rare 10 Year store pick and explore what makes it such a memorable bourbon. Their tasting covers the bottle’s extra age, smooth 90-proof profile, and notes of vanilla, caramel, orange, cherry cola, and gentle rye spice.

The conversation expands into a broader discussion about bourbon value, store picks, dusty bottles, Blanton’s, Rock Hill Farms, bottle collecting, and the challenge of finding allocated whiskey at a fair price. Alex shares why Rock Hill Farms remains one of his favorite bottles, while Dan compares Eagle Rare’s 10 and 12 year expressions and explains why store picks can offer a more distinctive experience.

Along the way, they discuss bourbon tourism, distillery visits, bottle shares, cork preservation, aging warehouses, old bottle prices, and the personal stories behind their collections. The episode closes with thoughts on the Kentucky Derby, bourbon friendships, and the importance of buying bottles to enjoy—not simply to resell.

#buffalotrace #eaglerare #storepick #rockhillfarms #mashbill1 #bourbon #whiskey #bourbontasting #kentuckyderby #horseracing #crescentspringstobacco #bourbonhunting #bourbontrail #podcast #bourbonbrassandbeyond #derbybottle #blantons

In this episode

Tasting an Eagle Rare 10 Year store pick

Comparing standard releases with store picks

Notes of vanilla, caramel, orange, cherry cola, and rye spice

Why Eagle Rare is considered a strong value bourbon

Eagle Rare 10 Year versus 12 Year

Alex’s favorite Rock Hill Farms bottle

Blanton’s, Blanton’s Gold, and Straight From the Barrel

Dusty bottles and historic bourbon prices

How to develop your palate and identify tasting notes

Corks, storage, decanters, and bottle displays

Buffalo Trace expansion and aging capacity

Allocated bottle lotteries and secondary-market pricing

Bourbon and Beyond, bottle shares, and Kentucky Derby plans

Collecting bottles you actually intend to drink

Timestamps

00:00 – Opening the Eagle Rare store pick

02:47 – First impressions and tasting notes

03:01 – Eagle Rare as a value bourbon

05:21 – Orange, vanilla, caramel, and balance

10:57 – How flavors develop over multiple sips

16:08 – Dan’s dusty bottle collection

19:14 – Comparing Blanton’s releases

24:32 – Bourbon and Beyond plans

36:05 – Eagle Rare 12 Year discussion

41:14 – Rock Hill Farms becomes the focus

49:27 – Cherry cola, caramel, and single-barrel flavor

54:04 – Why Rock Hill Farms sets the standard

57:29 – Value-first bourbon collecting

63:39 – Negotiation, respect, and friendship

71:21 – Master distillers and barrel selection

75:06 – Cold storage and ultra-aged bourbon

77:16 – Eagle Rare 20 and 25 bottle lotteries

81:02 – Final bottle recap

82:55 – Sign-off

Notable quotes

“I think that this is the best value per dollar.”

“That is the standard in my opinion.”

“If you want the bottle and you’re gonna enjoy the bottle, get the bottle.”

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Alex Derthick - IG: @captalex8

Dan: Good evening. Welcome back to Bourbon, Brass, and Beyond. tonight we have gone to the Eagle Rare 10 year store pick. I'm joined by Alex in Louisville, Alex Derthick. And he's got his own Eagle Rare 10 year store pick, and I have one that I picked up. good evening. Yeah.

 

Alex: Well thanks for having me, Dan. Good evening. good to see you again.

 

Dan: Good to see you.

 

Alex: I've actually been wanting to open this bottle, so I should be I'm excited to taste it. I don't remember what it tasted. I had two of that was a decade ago, I don't remember what it tastes like, so

 

Dan: Well, no time like the present.

 

Alex: Someone just told me the other day they said, be where your feet are. I like that.

 

Dan: I like that. That's like a Ted Lasso.

 

Alex: Yeah, yeah. Dude I fly with I'm in a fantasy football league.

 

Dan: There's mine.

 

Alex: Beautiful. So that's new. Is that from a store near you?

 

Dan: n this is from Crescent Springs Tobacco. It's on Buttermilk

 

Alex: Okay.

 

Dan: Parkway just south of Cincinnati in Kentucky.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: So when I was doing sim down in Cincinnati, this would be the place that I would stop when I was getting ready to come home.

 

Alex: Do the old Preston Van Winkle tasting here. yeah. It needs to breathe a little bit, but so mine's from Beverage Warehouse, a pretty notorious store here in the Louisville that closed down because when Total Wine came into town a decade ago, they really just gobbled up all the volume and market. But anyways, this this'll this'll set people back. This is how much this costs in twenty fifteen. Thirty

 

Dan: Nice.

 

Alex: six Ninety nine. Can't get that now. So yeah,

 

Dan: Nice. No.

 

Alex: that says down here that you can't see the label. Let's see if I can hold it up here. It actually says aged eleven years. So even despite the ten year age statement on the back. But we'll see how it tastes. Mm. Man, is that good? God, that's freaking phenomenal. It's one of my all time favorite drinkers is Eagle Rare. I I got a ton of as you saw, but It's

 

Dan: Now what's interesting is I I've always said that this is the best value per dollar Where else can you get a ten year bourbon or eleven

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: year in yours for forty bucks?

 

Alex: Nowhere. That's quality. I mean I wish it was a little higher proof like we've talked about, but I I mean ninety proof is probably the the right proofing for that. I'd like to see it at a hundred, but you know. I think that's probably right where it should be. But I mean the juices. Mashbill one, man.

 

Dan: Mashbill one.

 

Alex: Need to go get some God

 

Dan: Mm.

 

Alex: man, that is good. Damn is that good. Smooth. Very smooth. Lots of vanilla.

 

Dan: So I do like I do like the store picks better than a than just a straight Eagle Rare ten. I I

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: that At least the ones that I've had. I've had a couple.

 

Alex: Yeah, the color is great on it. What you'd want to see from ten year the nose. The nose is good. I gotta yeah, I'm I'm terrible also at like expressing what do I smell when I smell like old licorice or leather or baseball gloves. I'm like, how do you all how y'all how do people get that? But people do. I just more or less

 

Dan: So I I I think I've gotten a lot better at it. I th I think at first I was really struggling to to find the sense, but I think over time, they just start coming to me. 'Cause I it's like you're training your senses to recognize, you know, certain

 

Alex: Buy that.

 

Dan: things.

 

Alex: man. You can taste a little bit of that rye.

 

Dan: So I do get the caramel.

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: Yeah. I do get the caramel. I do get the a little bit of the fruits. And I I've always said it's things that have a little bit of rye in it. I get like a like a an orange marmalade or some sort of like a a fruit.

 

Alex: Absolutely in that. I did I get a ton of orange. it's very it feels very if you were a wine person, right? You'd say fruit forward. fruit forward, a lot of vanilla. I get a ton of vanilla, a ton of caramel. then it it finishes like with this orangey like this tint of like just a hint of orange. And and it's smooth, there's no bite to it. There's it's properly aged, it's right, man. a ten, twelve year bourbon, I think, up to fifteen is right is the perfect spot. And this just this just hits, man. It hits every time. And I mean I yeah. I big big fan. I s actually started drinking this stuff back when I was in college. That was like my go to bottle,

 

Dan: Nice.

 

Alex: like, if I wanted like a a nice bottle of bourbon to like enjoy That was it. I was still young. Probably did shots of it. Probably

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: probably did that, but did no did know what I had on my hands, how to appreciate that, but you know you live and you learn. But yeah, it's phenomenal.

 

Dan: So my first bottle of Eagle Rare I picked up in Chippewa, Pennsylvania, coming home from the airport. I wanna say it was in the two thousands,

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: late two thousands. And it was just sitting there, you know, on the shelf. No allocation.

 

Alex: Would you no.

 

Dan: Probably I I don't remember what I paid, but I I think it was probably

 

Alex: Probably thirty bucks.

 

Dan: yeah.

 

Alex: Isn't that crazy?

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: It blows my mind.

 

Dan: And I think they're just they're just like with tax forty five bucks now in Ohio. So they're like f forty, forty something.

 

Alex: even know what they were from the last few that I've gotten. They're through that bourbon club I belonged to and there's another one I got. We did a it was a pretty cool store. We did a picket event up in New York City and I did all the the logistics for it. The restaurant actually gave me a they had their own barrel. They gave me two bottles of it.

 

Dan: Nice.

 

Alex: So I've got one of those out there for some restaurant in New York we did this at that they partnered up with, so I got one of those. I'm excited to probably try that one since our contract's finally done. A decade later it feels like, but kind of excited for that one. But man, I've I've been wanting to open up this one for a while. I've kind of forgotten about it. It's been on the back burner. 'cause just 'cause it's an eleven year versus a ten and it's a store pick, so it's even got double of the double thing going for it. And that's an older bottle. beverage warehouse closed down in twenty fifteen. So I'm guessing the twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen bottling somewhere in there. I have I c I tried to find the laser coat, I I couldn't find it. Everyone's gonna be like, You should find the laser coat I'm like, Yeah, I I look pretty hard for like thirty minutes. That's what I was doing.

 

Dan: Well, when you're approaching forty it gets harder to see the laser code.

 

Alex: I can see pretty good still. You know, I just did my meta quest, like got twenty twenty fifteen or whatever I got vision.

 

Dan: So I'm now noticing

 

Alex: The man

 

Dan: it when I'm now noticing it when like the light starts to change, you know,

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: for the close up. So

 

Alex: Man, that's just Mmm. Man, is that good juice? And that's This is a great idea to do this tonight. Phenomenal idea. Now you got me to open this thing up. Thirty six ninety nine. I mean, that's crazy. Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, the cornerstone of the birth of a nation. Yeah.

 

Dan: Well and it's a good it's a good day to open these up. It's it's you know, National Bourbon Heritage Month.

 

Alex: It's like every month for me, but yeah.

 

Dan: Well, I I I I'd have to say we celebrate it all the time.

 

Alex: Y yeah, you should celebrate it every day. I actually had some What did I have earlier today? I don't even know what I I think I had s well or someone bored me. I was like, thanks. My very expensive babysitter took my kids for the four hours. So it was good.

 

Dan: Yeah. Mm.

 

Alex: Man, is that phenomenal, man? Holy smokes. I I forgot how good that was. I didn't even know what I had on my hands. That might be one of my favorite bottles I've got now.

 

Dan: And I love once you start having it's like that third sip, the flavors start to layer. on your tongue. And I feel like that's the best for most bourbons, that's the best one.

 

Alex: This bottle could breathe for a minute, it could use it. been s cooped up in storage for a decade. I was just glad the cork did disinerate with how hot it's been.

 

Dan: I've had a few. I've had a few go. I mean, they're normally the older, older dusty bottles, but They say that it's thirty to forty years or all that a cork's gonna last for on a bourbon bottle.

 

Alex: I try to that seventeen that you opened that we actually had the cork disintegrate, the Eagle Rare, I try to tip upside down and at least lu lube up. And I try

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: to twist around a little bit to get the get the juices flowing, you know. Sometimes, you know, you you just gotta you gotta you gotta play with it, twist it around, do some things, and then she's ready to go.

 

Dan: That's right.

 

Alex: Yeah, you know.

 

Dan: that's good.

 

Alex: That is phenomenal. I'm Lead a rare life. It's on the the hang tag here. So you it's all

 

Dan: Got a hang tag. Mm. So I do really like that.

 

Alex: The only man. Like like is an understatement. I mean I I really wish I could give everybody a pour of this thing. This thing is You know how much I love my Eagle seventeens and this is up there. This is really good stuff. I don't know who picked this barrel but they knew what they were doing. There was a guy named Owen, like in one of the Facebook groups, man. Like but back in the day, there used to be so many Facebook groups. There used to be like megaballs and powerballs and like all these different things and like it was it was fun, man. Like it was a great way to lose some money in a hurry, but

 

Dan: Ha ha ha.

 

Alex: And Facebook shut him down, unfortunately, which you know, I got my own personal feelings on that one. But there's this guy named Owen, I remember that, and he was like a manager or worked at the store or something, and he was like, We got these bottles in, you want one? And I was like, I want like four and he's like, You can only have two and I was like, Alright, I'll take two but I drank the other one clearly.

 

Dan: Mm-hmm.

 

Alex: But this thing this thing hits, man, this thing is I'm about to say some of those for you the next time I see you. This is great.

 

Dan: This is awesome. Yeah.

 

Alex: man, you know?

 

Dan: So the the twelve year is ninety It's ninety five proof.

 

Alex: Is it? I don't have a twelve year in I should probably acquire one of those.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: I just to be honest, I haven't even looked for one.

 

Dan: Well, if you come up, you can just try this.

 

Alex: Yeah, but I want my own.

 

Dan: True.

 

Alex: We can go we can like make a pearl circle. I g I even got that I showed you that picture of that one point seven five Eagle Rare. That thing

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: is huge. It's so big. I bought it. It's not a store pig, it's just a regular Eagle Rare. But it's just so ridiculously large I had to buy it. I was like, this is stupid. This is so dumb.

 

Dan: Yeah, but you think about it. You know, when we were at the Van Winkles, those one gallon bottles that they had, you know, that's

 

Alex: Yeah. I know.

 

Dan: that's the equivalent.

 

Alex: Yeah. One point yeah. And it's huge. It's like I d the size the picture does not do it justice. Man, I get that's what she said, but like it's it's big. It j and it's in a cognac style bottle, so it just looks ridiculous. Like it's not like it's not like a different shape bottle to make it more it's just a bigger version.

 

Dan: You need to get a you need to get a a rotate thing for it.

 

Alex: I just need to drink it. How about that? Yeah, I mean

 

Dan: That too. I have I have a half gallon of old granddad.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: That that I haven't cracked. It's from nineteen seventy six.

 

Alex: Okay. You've got some dusty

 

Dan: And

 

Alex: dusties.

 

Dan: I do. I do. I I've got a a a few. I've got that. I've got a seventy-five old granddad. I've got an eighty one old granddad one fourteen. I've got a fifty eight James Beam. Nineteen forty four old crow. I have a little left of the nineteen sixty eight Old Fitzgerald. You got to have the last little bit of my nineteen seventy very old Fitzgerald.

 

Alex: Dude, that might have been the best shit I've ever tasted. I don't know what I owe you for that, but I mean send me a Venmo request.

 

Dan: man, isn't I just No. That that well the the whole point is I I'm glad that you got to experience it. Cause it's never gonna exist again. You know, it's like unless you go

 

Alex: That is that's so sad to me because it's like a baby. You carry this thing around and all of a sudden it dies. And it's like, what do I do with this now?

 

Dan: Well, I've got it upstairs on the empty bottle shelf.

 

Alex: What what blends do you have? Speaking of I mean that's that's mashable too, but like what blends do you have up there? You've got

 

Dan: I have a couple of the derby bottles. I've got a regular Blantons and then I have a straight from the barrel.

 

Alex: Derby bottle blend with the

 

Dan: Yeah, the there were the three seventy fives that were the barrel select. They were the Sazerac barrel select. And I

 

Alex: Okay, okay, okay.

 

Dan: and I did open one and I mean it it's it's pretty good. I I really liked it.

 

Alex: Is it barrel proof or what is it?

 

Dan: No, standby

 

Alex: That's a that's what we gotta do. We gotta do a blends. We gotta go around I gotta get you some from Japan. Next time I'm there I need to send you a text. What is that guy? Keeping up a little guy.

 

Dan: So it's ninety three proof.

 

Alex: is this standard? So they're standard juice. Okay.

 

Dan: But it is p part of the Sazerac barrel select.

 

Alex: They did they wanted them in three seven fives. How is it? Damn is that shit good.

 

Dan: It's it's really good.

 

Alex: So That's kinda my pride and joy is my bland set is all the green, black, red, Japanese red, straight from the barrel, gold, L V W, straight, whatever the crap is over here. Yeah.

 

Dan: See, I think those are the best. I I I I I think that the regular Blantons has gotten younger and younger.

 

Alex: Mm-hmm.

 

Dan: And now to get the the the quality that you you want when you get a Blanton's that you have to go to either the straight from the barrel or some of those international ones.

 

Alex: Yep. I haven't I mean I've opened a bunch of my golds. I've probably got four or five of I I I l I need to. Next time I'm over there, I'll send you a text. I'll just bring between you and me and the fence post I'll bring some some back. I only bring two. I can only bring two back, so I I will only bring two back.

 

Dan: Okay.

 

Alex: Agreed.

 

Dan: I I I appreciate I appreciate that. Agreed. Capitalized. Highlighted.

 

Alex: Yeah. Perfect. Maybe he can hook me up.

 

Dan: Right. Right. So Bob's

 

Alex: Yeah, you know, I'm all about the hookup.

 

Dan: got Bob has a lot of them.

 

Alex: Really?

 

Dan: So we we have we've been talking about doing the Blantons episode where we bring them all out.

 

Alex: Yeah. I mean I need to get back over to Paris and go to the L D W show store.

 

Dan: Yes.

 

Alex: Yeah, I gotta ship back. That's the problem. The problem is, man, like US prices back in the day when I got they were like four or five hundred bucks. The cool thing is the one that I've got is bottled on my birthday.

 

Dan: that's awesome. That's

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: awesome. See I d I don't I don't have any of those.

 

Alex: I'm always on the lookout.

 

Dan: No.

 

Alex: There used to be a Bland's Facebook group where like you could like put in and someone would like trade you if you had the same date or whatever. I don't know what happened to it,

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: but it probably got it probably got shut down too.

 

Dan: Probably probably. They didn't they they

 

Alex: this you're having too much of a good

 

Dan: they didn't use the right codes.

 

Alex: I didn't use the right emojis. god.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: Like why? Like why d why? It's such a silly thing. Like, you know, the the crazy thing is, man, like You leave this country, you go overseas, and like the taboo on alcohol is like nothing. It's No one gets carded. But and yeah. And they're very still productive members of society, but you know. I get it. I get the drawback, trust me, but funny. We c we could also do a really good tailor episode. I mean I've got some tailors too. And you've got some and you got that old that old one.

 

Dan: You have to try that old. That is worth it. That is that is worth the drive up here just to try that one.

 

Alex: Do you have any speaking of like off the wall stuff that's kinda new, do you have any Penelope?

 

Dan: So

 

Alex: Or Elijah what about Elijah Craig? I just I was going through out there, I have like a mountain

 

Dan: I

 

Alex: of Elijah Craig. Like eighteen to

 

Dan: So

 

Alex: fifteen

 

Dan: I I do have some Elijah Craigs, and I just picked up a barrel proof. From being down there. I did the bottle your own, where it's just a extremely small batch of ten barrels. Every time you do the bottle your own, the private tasting in the bottle your own bottle, it's from only ten barrels that they've selected and batched

 

Alex: I'm Elijah Craig.

 

Dan: from Elijah Craig at at Heaven Hills.

 

Alex: I've never done that to her.

 

Dan: So I picked that one 'cause I thought that's the one where you could buy an allocated bottle at the end. It's not. It was the wrong one.

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: You have to do the w you have to do the whiskey connoisseur tour in order to buy an allocated bottle at the end. So I wanted

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: to get an Elijah Craig twenty one.

 

Alex: Mm. That's the one I'm missing.

 

Dan: 'Cause I have the fifteen, I have the yeah, I have the fifteen, I have the eighteen, and then they just came out with a twenty one. So that's the one I wanted. So I I went on Reddit, I was trying to look it up, and they said if you do this tour, then you can buy an allocated bottle. Well, I picked the wrong.

 

Alex: Chucky Darren. Sounds like he'll have to come back.

 

Dan: I think so. So I'm thinking for bourbon bourbon and beyond. I'll be down there for that. I'm thinking about doing a bottle share. Yeah, I'm thinking about doing

 

Alex: Yeah. That's coming up in a couple of weeks. A bottle sure.

 

Dan: a bottle share at the hotel. See who will come out for that.

 

Alex: Okay. When is that again? Urban ambient.

 

Dan: the twenty fourth to the twenty seventh, I think.

 

Alex: Maybe I'll have my one landing

 

Dan: But

 

Alex: I need before then. I can call it sick. Yeah. You can't predict sick, Dan.

 

Dan: No. Safety has no holiday, Alex.

 

Alex: Or a clock in your case. Yeah.

 

Dan: That's right. That's right. Yeah, the twenty fourth, twenty fifth, twenty sixth, and twenty-seventh.

 

Alex: Sounds like a party.

 

Dan: So the twin yeah, the twenty seventh is gonna be pretty busy. That's Sunday, that's the last day. And then driving down I probably gonna drive down the morning, early morning of the twenty fourth. So maybe on Friday the twenty fifth.

 

Alex: All right. What hotel you gone? Yeah.

 

Dan: Just take an hour or two over. So we're at the the true right across from the event.

 

Alex: you're near the airport.

 

Dan: Yeah. So we're true by

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: Hilton right right beside the exposition center. I wanted to be not have to worry about if we if we could walk it, we could walk it.

 

Alex: You'll do the walk. The question is, will you have the ability? I got paid. I I got

 

Dan: Where there's a will.

 

Alex: paid. There's a way.

 

Dan: That's right.

 

Alex: What is what are those I've been wanting to know this on the other day, like on your bottom shelf down there by the step stool, what are those yellow labels? I've never seen that.

 

Dan: Fry Ranch.

 

Alex: Huh. What's that from? Is that is that bourbon or is it Kentucky bourbon or huh? Is it good?

 

Dan: That's that that's out of Nevada. Well, it it's it's out of Nevada. And it's grained glass, so it's all from their farm. And the one's a four the one is a four grain, the other one is a five grain. And you know what? They were good. Yeah. Oat

 

Alex: I've grain. The hell the the hell they put for the fifth grain.

 

Dan: oat is oat.

 

Alex: Oat. Have you had it? Have you tried it?

 

Dan: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's d it's decent. Yeah, I i it

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: is. It's it's it's it's good. Would it be something that

 

Alex: Underaged or properly?

 

Dan: No, I'd say they're properly aged. It's it's not an old let's see. I don't know that it has an age statement. It is non chill filtered, straight bourbon whiskey. Distilled from f five slow grain slow grown grains.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: this is a single barrel. It's

 

Alex: Single barrel.

 

Dan: one hundred and twenty five point seven proof. This bottle here was an Ohio exclusive barrel pick. And Bottle number ninety-seven out of barrel number twenty-zero five one nine. So from twenty twenty. So this was six years old. Yeah. It's worth trying.

 

Alex: And how is it? Did you have it out there or do you have it when you got back? I mean everything's worth trying.

 

Dan: No, I had it here.

 

Alex: the at the table.

 

Dan: No, I I I tried it here when I got home. Yeah. We did we did a podcast on it.

 

Alex: Does that thing spin around? Does that the Blands bottle spin?

 

Dan: So I just got this today. Literally today.

 

Alex: Wow. I saw your

 

Dan: Think so. Make sure that's centered.

 

Alex: Awesome. Dude,

 

Dan: Isn't that cool?

 

Alex: I'm kinda jealous. I just wanna buy one just to do it. That's that's awesome. man, that makes my heart happy. It's good stuff. Everybody likes a spinner, you know.

 

Dan: That's right.

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: That's right.

 

Alex: Everybody likes to spin.

 

Dan: Well, everybody's like, Well, I didn't get to see the back label or I didn't get to see the front. Well, here you go.

 

Alex: I like I like all the s all the angles. I mean I I wanna see it all. I just appreciate the fact that you bought that. 'Cause now I'm gonna hit you up for where did you get it in about a month.

 

Dan: Amazon.

 

Alex: Amazon, do you like it? Is it worth it? How much weight can it hold? Can it hold like

 

Dan: Yep. I I do yeah, it wasn't

 

Alex: a gallon?

 

Dan: It can hold eleven pounds.

 

Alex: Wow, eleven pounds?

 

Dan: Yes.

 

Alex: Nice. Very nice.

 

Dan: Yes.

 

Alex: What's the what's the what

 

Dan: So I figure I maybe

 

Alex: what's the Bravo thirty two? What's the what gate is that from?

 

Dan: That's from Pittsburgh.

 

Alex: the old terminal.

 

Dan: That was the gate w the one that they just so they just started revamping the terminal a couple of years ago and they tore

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: all the gate signs down and then somebody listed them on Facebook Marketplace. So I got Bravo I got Bravo thirty two because I used to be in and out of that gate like every day. And I got Alpha eleven.

 

Alex: Alpha eleven. Where's the Alpha eleven?

 

Dan: It's in my office.

 

Alex: Th this is that that should be your

 

Dan: Mm.

 

Alex: office. What kind of office you got, bro? Like this this should be it. What better

 

Dan: D do you come up, you'll see my office.

 

Alex: Crew and passenger only beyond this point.

 

Dan: So so this So Steph texted me, like, hey, there's this an auction in in Pennsylvania. I'm like, okay. And she goes, and there's a lot of airplane stuff. And here, the guy's name was James Kirk, who retired as a captain from Delta.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: He was a former he was he was original Northwest twenty year whale guy. And he had a lot of aviation stuff that he was auctioning off. including I'm gonna try to do this, including This six and a half foot wide

 

Alex: Seven three.

 

Dan: US Airways seven thirty seven. That was the s it was the

 

Alex: The most ridiculous thing I've seen in a while. That's so big. People don't understand how big that is. That takes up so much room.

 

Dan: Yeah, it w it was the centerpiece of the US Airways ticket counter at the Pittsburgh International Airport until nineteen ninety four.

 

Alex: Where did you f you got that from the Delta guy?

 

Dan: Yeah. Cause somehow

 

Alex: I love

 

Dan: he got it off of a gate agent. In down there. I don't know.

 

Alex: Too much too eagle rare dam.

 

Dan: Yeah, that's the back bar, that's the downstairs bar.

 

Alex: Yeah, I like it. I like your setup. You just got a great setup, man. Kudos to you. Proud of you. So I'll think this started off a long time

 

Dan: So the reason I have this

 

Alex: ago with Blanton seventeen ninety or with Seventeen ninety two pauper.

 

Dan: Seventeen ninety two.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: So the reason for the wall behind me is because when we moved into this house, we had to repair a lot of stuff. And it was actually this whole area was sagging about two inches.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: The main being. So we had go

 

Alex: So you had to put in a bar.

 

Dan: underneath. Yeah, we had we we had jack up the the foundation off of the foundation under this and then put two more posts in. And the guy that we had do it. his name's Lenny Glavin and he's just a phenomenal contractor. He's like, I can match all that woodwork to your bar. Like, okay. So he puts the posts in. I'm like, well, if we're gonna have posts there anyway, we might as well have shelving for some bottles.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: He's like, yeah, I can do that. So he put all these in. And it's just yeah. This has been the

 

Alex: Good stuff. It looks great.

 

Dan: We're real happy with it. Well thanks.

 

Alex: I would be. Can I sleep on that couch?

 

Dan: Yeah, if you want. There's a guest bedroom.

 

Alex: Yeah, I mean you'd wake up with The couch has a better view.

 

Dan: That's true. That's true. Hm. So I

 

Alex: So the ninety have you tasted the twelve year or no? What's the deal on that one?

 

Dan: yeah. I I I like the twelve year better than the ten year.

 

Alex: This is this is next level man. This is I haven't taken a sip in a while just 'cause I could chug this. Feeling like I'm drowning in it, but

 

Dan: Yeah, that's good.

 

Alex: It's better than good. Like I don't I wish that I could explain to the viewers how good this bottle is. I've had some really ridiculous stuff. I actually like this. Preston, you didn't hear this, but I like this better than the the Pappy lineup. But it's a different mash bill and a different pr proof point. But I'd put this right up there with the fifteen year. And my this thing is freaking

 

Dan: So

 

Alex: phenomenal.

 

Dan: My favorite thing about this bottle is that you don't get a lot of ryes to me start to turn to bitter on the aftertaste, on that back end, on the back of the palate. And

 

Alex: Mm-hmm. Correct.

 

Dan: you do not get that with this. So I I I

 

Alex: No, I do not.

 

Dan: really like that. I what I

 

Alex: I I you also get that over peppered flavor.

 

Dan: Right.

 

Alex: A lot of r a lot of rye are like I feel like I'm just taking a thing of black pepper and just eating it. I'm like, I get it as spicy, it's fun. Like I like spicy food too, but I need a more balanced bourbon, in my opinion.

 

Dan: Yeah. So to me the twelve year is just a little bit sweeter and you have a little bit more of a mouthfeel. So it's got a little bit more viscous. And that could be just the proof, but so my the twelve has been my favorite so far of the Eagle Rares.

 

Alex: Yeah, just

 

Dan: Course yours being eleven, it might be, you know, closer to yours than it is than to the ten.

 

Alex: I can't imagine that Buffalo Trace changed a whole lot of I mean it's the same still, right? Same everything in the last ten years, so well I guess this would have been twenty years ago. Twenty one years ago. So yeah, it's still the same still, but I can't imagine a whole lot's changed since then. But

 

Dan: Well, they've expanded like four times since then.

 

Alex: Yeah, but the still and all the stuff is the same. Yeah, I just I just love seeing the thirty six ninety nine sticker and then because that doesn't exist in today's society.

 

Dan: One of the dusty bottles that I got from the early eighties had a seven dollar price tag on

 

Alex: man. There was a speaking of like going back in time, there was this TikTok I was watching about right before you texted me. This girlfriend, she was like rage baiting her boyfriend about the cowboys being so bad. She's like, I wish gas would go down to a dollar. He'd be like, What? It's never gonna do that. Like that's a pipe dream. Like, kiss that goodbye. She's like, well things don't have the if that don't happen in thirty years you should probably kiss us dreams goodbye, right? And he's like, Probably and he's like, so you give up on the Cowboys? And I was like,

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: I was like, that's That's brutal coming from a Lions fan, myself, you know. I don't even know what it's like to be in the Super Bowl, but I hear it's cool.

 

Dan: I think the Lions are in the same boat as the Browns where they're it's national championships. Pre Super Bowl.

 

Alex: Yeah, it's we do good if we can just win the first quarter and then after that it's it's all up from there. man.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: But this is good. This is a good idea. What else you got back there? What else do you want to try next?

 

Dan: So I have not I mean I've had Rock Hill and I think we did we actually did an episode where Bob brought over a Rock Hill, but that was probably six months ago. And now I have.

 

Alex: And that is. So I've got a bunch of I've still got a case left. But that's my that's my guy. That's my jam. That's my favorite. I used to be my daily drinker. It's a Rock Hill Farm. And going for three hundred dollars on the secondary market now for a bottle. I mean I used to buy that stuff for back in the day for fifty-five dollars a bottle.

 

Dan: That's crazy.

 

Alex: You can't find it now. I used to about by the caseload.

 

Dan: So so what's the difference we what's the difference between the Hancock's Reserve and the Rock Hill Farms? 'Cause the Hancock's Reserve, President's Choice, or whatever it's called, is the same mash bill. It's mash bill number two. their mash bill number two, they have a higher rye content than mash bill number one.

 

Alex: that's right.

 

Dan: it's the original ancient age mash

 

Alex: Age.

 

Dan: bell.

 

Alex: I d I don't to be honest, I don't know. 'Cause it sure is the same thing as Blend and MRT Lee as well, if I remember right. I'm gonna look this

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: up.

 

Dan: All right. So

 

Alex: What's this guy?

 

Dan: So these are all the same mash bill as Blanton's. Elmer Tele is

 

Alex: I haven't had a handcocks in a minute.

 

Dan: Elmer T. Lee is 90 proof. Rock Hill Farms is 100 proof. And Hancock Reserve single barrel is 88.9 proof. But that this one is a Sazerac barrel select. Rock Hill Farms is a single barrel. Counterproof.

 

Alex: They're they're I mean they're all they're both Mashville one and Mashbell two are both ryes. One obviously two has a higher, slightly higher rye content. I I to be honest, I don't know. I mean from the coloring I would say Rock Hill Foams probably aged slightly longer, but it just could be the decanter and the way the lights shining through it. But I mean they The Pappy and Weller put is a wheated mash bill, right? So that's mash bill three that no one talks about, but

 

Dan: I think they just call it the ma the the wheated mash bill.

 

Alex: Yeah, but I

 

Dan: 'Cause then there's the stri 'cause then there's the straight Rye Mash bill as well.

 

Alex: Correct. But Mashville One and Mashville Two, those are their two main jams, right? Like so Stag is Mashville One and all that. And then it's a little bit less complex in its notes, but I haven't had a Hancock's in a while, to be honest. It's great juice, but I just to be honest, man, I just I love the Rock Hill. I love the decanter. it It freaking it hits every time and The decanter's

 

Dan: So

 

Alex: beautiful.

 

Dan: Yeah it is. Here. I'll I'll I'll I'll

 

Alex: I mean it's it's a it's a top tier decanter. I mean I've made like I've made vases out of I've made lights.

 

Dan: Here. Just for you.

 

Alex: Get the bag out of the way. Arm. See. It's I mean, it's g it's got it going on.

 

Dan: So from what I read Originally Buffalo Trace used Mash Bill One. And then when bought the enchant. They assumed MASH Bill number two with the H and A.

 

Alex: I mean that makes sense.

 

Dan: So the

 

Alex: We're gonna open it. All right.

 

Dan: No good in having a a seal bottle, right? All right.

 

Alex: I'm out. I didn't get the invite. I didn't get the memo. can't can't miss an opportunity to not have Rock Hill farms.

 

Dan: No.

 

Alex: I already have one open though. I'm not opening another one. It's my celebratory. it's dusty.

 

Dan: I like the bottle. I like pouring out of the bottle.

 

Alex: Dude, I'm I'm telling you, man, it just everything about it is just great. All right, what year is yours? Let's just

 

Dan: Yeah, it's got a

 

Alex: have a laser code. This is probably twenty nineteen.

 

Dan: Mine I I do believe mine's a twenty twenty six.

 

Alex: All right. I'm back with you.

 

Dan: Is there a is there a laser code on these?

 

Alex: Yeah, there is. There should be. mine's got one, I just gotta shine a light on it. Twenty eighteen. Twenty eighteen.

 

Dan: You see that on wait, there's the laser code.

 

Alex: Right there in the corner. It's underneath all that, but it

 

Dan: Yeah, mine's a twenty f Mine's a twenty, twenty four.

 

Alex: Best looking decanter in the game. Even as someone who owns horses, I agree. I don't have the spinny thing that Dan has, but it still hits. My favorite my favorite bottle. They just don't make like they used to, you know. How is it? I mean it's good.

 

Dan: it's got a great nose.

 

Alex: Single barrel bourbon at a hundred proof.

 

Dan: got more of that cherry cola feel.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: Cherry Coke.

 

Alex: I still gotta finish off my little rare man. This is it's not a chore, I just sometimes when you drink a bourbon, you pour something like, man, like I don't ever want it to end. And like the sad part is like this is a one of one. I ain't there they ain't gonna make another one of these. This is done after this. That's why I was trying to like buy a backup. Like, damn, I hardly like that. Like I want I want that again. See how warm this thing is. It's not bad too. It's been so freaking hot here. Maybe doing recess inside of my kids' school.

 

Dan: That's like everything I want out of a blend.

 

Alex: Yep. It's Bla it's Blanton's older older brother.

 

Dan: Yeah, that's

 

Alex: She's better.

 

Dan: that is so so nice. It's got that nice sweet caramel It's got the the bread, just a little bit of pepper from the rye.

 

Alex: not with some water here.

 

Dan: That vanilla and cherry coke. Notes. It stays nice and sweet on the tongue, a little bit of that rye on the back. That's so nice.

 

Alex: it's it's stuck. It's it's like don't disintegrate on me now.

 

Dan: And these n these bottles are notorious for leaking during shipping too. Like if you were to

 

Alex: Correct. It's just They just don't make him like

 

Dan: Mm.

 

Alex: the Usue anymore then.

 

Dan: No.

 

Alex: Like the way it pours out with the lip is everything.

 

Dan: Yeah. That's yeah.

 

Alex: Okay.

 

Dan: I have a couple other bottles like that that are that that pour like that. Or the the seventeen ninety twos, those pour like that.

 

Alex: Yeah, yeah. All right, haven't had this one in a while. Mmm, mmm You can already smell the caramel.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: The way that Preston taught, man, the blow

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: And then smell, man, that that's a game changer for me. That's a I can be taught on a lot of things. Sometimes I get things wrong, sometimes I don't, whatever. There's no No particulate in the in the bottle. had some bottles, man, they like all sorts of just some are not really filtered at all. You get a bunch of char, which is I kinda like it's kinda fun.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: One day I'll grow up in

 

Dan: Mm.

 

Alex: adult land and get a cool setup like yours. There you go. What you think?

 

Dan: Well that that second sip is just even better.

 

Alex: my goodness. it's got just enough spice with the rye, it's got the balance, it's got the proper aging, the proper proof. That's what a single barrel whiskey should be. Right there. That is every that's the standard in my opinion. There is no other

 

Dan: Note.

 

Alex: standard. I know that Bland's is his own thing. That wins every time. Blanton's gold sometimes can hit it like that, but Blanton's is sometimes inconsistent 'cause of the volume they pump out, but Th this is better in every way. I mean you can tell from the oil from the barrel when you like you tilt the thing around you can see the striations in the top of the glass. Yeah. This this is it. This this is my guy. This is my rider die. And back in the day, man, it was fifty fifty it's the same price as bland fifty bucks. And I was like, Yeah, I turned everybody on to it and I really wish I would have not opened my mouth. Like what's your favorite bourbon? I was like, Rockville Farms. They're like, Why? I was like, This is better. It's it's unapproved. To age product, probably a seven, eight year age, if I were to guess. For a single barrel, that seems about right. The coloring on it, not to pour something better for it to get bad better coloring, but the coloring Suggest that, but

 

Dan: gonna I'm gonna Google that.

 

Alex: Yeah, that's probably a seven year bourbon if I were to guess. I bet weather antique looks exactly like the

 

Dan: Doctor Google says that it is estimated to be aged between eight and ten years.

 

Alex: Yeah, I've I've been educated today. I mean that that tracks. I'm attracted by the flavor profile is what it is, right? Because the rye is not overpowering. younger bourbons, I feel like the rye just dominates the nose, dominates the palate. And I get that, right? You're trying to pump product out, use a heavy rye build, you can get more juice out faster. You can hide that methanol and ethanol and then that rye. I get all that, right? It's spicy, it's hot. Like you're more of a man, but I'm like, man, I want I want the I want all the flavor profile. I want the full spectrum a balanced quality bourbon and that's my opinion, th this is their best product, in my opinion. I'd rather have this over I d the only thing I all the in the Pappy lineup, I'd rather actually have a fifteen over this just 'cause I don't have one. 'Cause I've drank it, but I'd I'd rather I'd take this over a watt B or a twenty and everyone's like, You're crazy. I'm like I look at value and affordability and I could buy two or three bottles of this, if not more, for a twenty. I'm like, this is great juice. I don't know, I always try to find value and especially as like a collector who like actually drinks his product.

 

Dan: You have to. You you have to look at value. I mean there of course there are times when you're like, all right, this is something I definitely want. But for the most part, I I like the value part of it as well. I mean, like when we started hanging out, what was I drinking?

 

Alex: JW Dant. You and I've never touched it. And to be honest,

 

Dan: JW Dant. Yeah.

 

Alex: man, I still I I still bought because of the value and people are like 'cause people come over and they're like, hey I wanna I want like an old bathroom or whatever. I'm like, I'm not gonna take a bottle of rock hill and mix a banana bash and to be straight with you, I I'm

 

Dan: Right.

 

Alex: just not I'm not gonna allow that. you know, so I'm like, hey, if you wanna play that game, like I've got some other shit you can mix up, you know. Even though Derby is all

 

Dan: Definitely.

 

Alex: inclusive, I used to back in the day, man, I used to sneak in bourbon because Derby back in the day when I started going like twenty years ago was not all inclusive. It was, you know, mm by the drink, by the meal, whatever. Like a a traditional sporting event. So I used to take in I actually still got one of them up there. I still did it just for old time purposes. I don't know why, just to keep the tradition going. get like a little plastic, you know, three seven five of Old Forester or whatever and just tuck it in your waistband, continue on without your day and That's kinda how I how I view you know, what what are you doing with stuff? You're gonna mix it, man, I don't you don't once you once you start adding

 

Dan: So

 

Alex: sugar sugar and flavor and you can't you can't taste the vanilla and caramel and the the appreciation to the effort that the distiller put into that product.

 

Dan: So the Kentucky Derby next year will take place on Saturday, May first, twenty twenty seven.

 

Alex: I'm I'm guaranteed off by the way. I have vacation that we

 

Dan: So you know, Saturday, May first is a significant date. Twenty twenty seven.

 

Alex: that's your birthday, right?

 

Dan: And not only is it my birthday, it's my fiftieth birthday.

 

Alex: I mean so you w when are you coming down? That's the question. you coming down like Wednesday or I mean we I can do a hell of a week. Like I got we c I mean I I don't know what your agenda is, like what you want to do, but we can have a good time. We need to get in need to get in touch with Tony. Next time you're down here, we need to get Tony wh whenever he's done, UPS is jerking his chain worse than Wayne, little Wayne. And whenever he's done with that game it he'll be He'll be free to play. 'Cause like all the time I text him, like, What are you doing? He's like, I'm in Boston doing whatever and I'm like, making a lot of progress, huh? No. But yeah. Yeah, it's

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: I I expect you down here, by the way. Sure.

 

Dan: I I think it's gonna be a priority.

 

Alex: i it it ain't it ain't a cheap ticket. I'm I'm happy to do all the things. But the I told you Depending on like what we do, like it's all inclusive. So I can get us a limo, the whole thing, all the thing, give you a birthday present. But like Yeah, I mean the it's a party. Like it's if you want a party, it's a it's a party. You gotta you gotta dress up, you gotta wear the hat, you gotta do the thing. Everybody's doing it the whole week. Even my kids. Like when I take to the track, like that next Saturday. Hopefully we got a Derby horse run next year. That might be another whole gamut. Burnham Square runs the Kentucky Turf Cup on Saturday. Two and two and a quarter million purse, which is well over the Derby purse. Which was Derby Horse last year. Not this past year, but this last year. Transition to turf. He's undefeated this year on turf. He's he's he went in the year in for the Breeders' Cup Turf boss, which is a five million dollar purse. So I just got a Yeah. I'm a I'm pumped. Man, he's gonna race for a while. He's a gelding, so he's gonna race for seven years.

 

Dan: Nice. I don't know a lot about horse.

 

Alex: Yeah. You gotta come down for Well, we can learn you real good, real quick.

 

Dan: I'm I'm a fast learner.

 

Alex: Just bring that You're one of the most intelligent people, Dan, that I've ever met in my life. Just I I I mean that, to be honest. I I feel bad for someone else to negotiate against you 'cause it would be hell.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: It'd truly be hell. It'd fucking hell. It'd be i I'd just slam my head against the wall in the nicest way possible.

 

Dan: I'm just a

 

Alex: But

 

Dan: I am just a a gentle giant. I am

 

Alex: Well the the thing is, right? So I was telling other people about this thing, but It's it's not just the ability to see the dominoes lining up and how they react, it's also the ability to deliver and then the ability to articulate that and then the ability to have the understanding of what the other party wants, needs, desires and to mitigate that. And that's a skill a lot of people don't have. You've gotta clearly you've got it, but like yeah. But just like Buffalo Trace has got all the juice.

 

Dan: I just try to learn. Yeah. Well, I just try to learn from you, buddy.

 

Alex: Dude, when I showed up on property, you were like on your third contract. When you did your first contract, I think I was graduating high school. And that's not like a vindicative like I'm turning you're only eleven years older than me. It just you just got such a jump start on your career. And that's that's not like a dig at like your eight like none of that is. Like that's just a kudos to you. Like most people don't have that drive, that fortitude, that sight. Like man, that's like like I said, man, that fits the previous statement. And like I don't know if this like the podcast or not, but I would put it in there, but that's my Personal feeling all the time. I still love that

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: freaking story. I l I tell everybody that started, I'm like, man, I was pushing out a contract in 2018 and he's running roadshows to vote no. I'm running vote shows to vote yes. And he and like here we are to this day. And people are like, You I'm like, yeah, because it's not a personal thing. It's not like Dan's

 

Dan: No.

 

Alex: not coming out there being like, you're an idiot. He's like, hey, I think this could be better, and here's why. And then you list a logical reason and I'm like, you know what? This is this is how I want to talk to people. 'Cause I don't have it figured out.

 

Dan: That's all it's about. Yeah. I

 

Alex: It it's a better product, like And cut kudos to you man, because like you know you went through a lot more crap than all that. Like that could be a whole podcast in and of itself, but like I just I think it says a lot more about your character as a human being than anything. I've always looked up to that. You and and I don't know like I know and Dave Crouse, I've always looked up both of you guys. Dave's super smart. Dave's a good dude. Like you guys are both just highly intelligent people, great human beings, great fathers, people I look up to as a from a father figure, but every time I talk about you guys, I'm like, Whoop and that's immediately what I pour into. I ca I don't really think I turned you onto bourbon. I think you liked bourbon, but I think that you just needed to get more brands under your belt.

 

Dan: I agree. I've always liked bourbon. I I get that from my grandpa, but I I think that I didn't realize the world of bourbon that was out there. And you

 

Alex: it's you look at your show.

 

Dan: you helped me see that. And I I can't thank you enough.

 

Alex: Can damn. I'm just I'm just glad that you reminded me that I had this Rockville Farms open. This is For the reader who's never had this and you're like, Do I wanna spend three hundred dollars on a secondary market for it? I I would I would tell you I can't tell you how to spend your money, but the answer for me would be yes. I I might go buy one tomorrow. There's a liquor

 

Dan: yeah, that is good.

 

Alex: store up the road that's got one.

 

Dan: Well and it's not just that, it it's that I think that If you want the bottle and you're gonna enjoy the bottle, get the bottle. And if you can, you know, don't don't stretch yourself, but I mean if you have the means. Get the bottle because the more time you wait trying to find an MSRP, the more time

 

Alex: It's gonna be moved.

 

Dan: you're not gonna Yeah, you're not gonna have the experience.

 

Alex: And I like

 

Dan: And that

 

Alex: I I love that's one of my favorite things about Preston, man, like you know, how much he disdained on the true flippers, right? Like I get a guy who like gets a bottle, he gets himself into a pinch and like he's gotta move it or sell it and like listen, I understand. I've been there, I've had not two nickels to rub together. I get it. Like I totally get it, man. Like you're in a pinch, you're going through life changes. Do your thing, bro. Happy to help you out. I'll buy your shit. But like the like the meth addicts who like just show up just for the pure intention of like just winning a lottery just to move a bottle. I'm like, that's so disingenuous to like the whole concept. I'm like Pappy Van Winkle could sell their bottles for five thousand dollars a frickin' bottle all day long and twice on Sunday and not have a problem. But they don't. They're doing that because they want the average consumer to enjoy a great product. And they've got a great product. This this ain't selling for three hundred dollars because Buffalo Trace could sell it for four hundred dollars a bottle and people would buy it. I'm I'm one of them.

 

Dan: And the legs on that are phenomenal.

 

Alex: dude it's Yeah. So my my great grandmother is one of my favorite things she ever had. She always told me, she says The two most beautiful things in the world you'll appreciate everyone will appreciate this one is a woman's body, naked, and a horse.

 

Dan: Ha ha ha

 

Alex: And and having on some horses 'cause a couple of Yeah Yeah, I I could agree with that statement. I don't they're they're a beautiful animal. They really are. The but the the bourbon. This the but the canter man. Preston Van Winkle says, do not swirl. Don't don't do this. That opens up more air releasing out. Just blow the top off. No. He was such a cool dude, man. I could go back to that guy. I mean, he just

 

Dan: Absolutely. One hundred percent class act, down to earth, just knowledgeable and understanding. I yeah. And I d I know you haven't met Wally yet. Maybe we'll do that next time we're down there, but Wally Dant from Log Still Distillery is the same way. You know, JW Wally Dant of the JW

 

Alex: Most of those guys are.

 

Dan: Dant family.

 

Alex: Like I knew Jim Rutledge pretty well, I knew Brent Elliott pretty well. I knew a bunch of the Master Distillers and like Most of those dudes like they cut their teeth on some stuff and they their heart and passion is just in creating product that's really good and that's phenomenal. And while I understand that Preston's not a distiller, quote unquote, but he's still in charge of tasting barrels, like right? Like we just I don't know if the last podcast meant to cut, but I they just talked about That was the first one of the first years they've never rejected a barrel from Buffalo Trace. And that's astounding. I mean, you're talking for the old Rip Van Winkles, I I guarantee you that's several hundred barrels. And then you're talking the lot B probably the same thing. Probably for the fifteen, it's probably still up there. And then as you get more into the age product, there's probably only there's less than less, right? but they never rejected a single freaking barrel. And they do two tastings a year. So that's pretty wild. That's a lot of fucking product. And that place pumps out more bourbon than I could you and me can imagine. People don't realize like their rig houses are full, they're aging stuff and frickin' semi trailers and whatever else they can put it in.

 

Dan: We were down in in July, we did a Weller foolproof barrel pick.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: And Yeah, it's crazy. And the amount of rick houses they've added and their storage capacity.

 

Alex: They're doing what are they doing? Like a billion dollar expansion or something like that?

 

Dan: For a second time.

 

Alex: Yeah. I mean they they can't make enough. I mean they're they're pumping it out. Jim Beam is shutting down. I mean that should tell you everything in and out.

 

Dan: Yeah. And you know what? There's still lines for their products. Even in Ohio where Buffalo Trace has been like dumping stuff, I mean they've been loading Ohio up with everything. it's still gone. It's still off the shelves within a couple days.

 

Alex: ten year one point two billion dollar expansion. That's a lot of money. That's a More fermenters, additional cookers, Fony new aging warehouses.

 

Dan: Well and then they just bought that other distillery that was in bankruptcy down in Tennessee.

 

Alex: Another they could probably age a lot of food down there.

 

Dan: Yeah, that that was just closed last month. I mean I I saw news about it a couple months ago. I knew they put an offer in, but it was closed. They they got that distillery. So they're they're getting they're getting s rick house space and distilleries on top of this expansion.

 

Alex: They just need to space the age of their product. I mean they they've got a they've got a storage issue on hand. And good. I want I want more of this. And I definitely want older versions of this. They're gonna pump out twelve years, they they've got something else on the market. Did we ever figure out all right, so I don't know what made the podcast, what didn't. So at the Buffalo Trace, they have like a walk in type cooler, right? They've got two bottles

 

Dan: Right.

 

Alex: or two barrels of Pappy in there.

 

Dan: Pappy Van Winkle twenty-three, yes, they're consolidated. So what they did

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: is they took so they took like five or six barrels and consolidated it into two barrels because at twenty-three

 

Alex: Mm-hmm.

 

Dan: years there's only like twenty-three percent of the juices left.

 

Alex: That makes sense.

 

Dan: So they they consolidated it into two barrels so that they were almost full, and then they put into the cold storage. So they're still aging just at a very, very slow process. So they don't get over oak. That's where that Eagle Rare twenty five and the Eagle Rare thirty came from, that cold storage.

 

Alex: Yeah, I mean the oils just don't come out of the wood as long, in my opinion. Like how cold is that storage? Do you think it's like fifties, you think it's thirties? What you what do you think it is?

 

Dan: I would say I believe he it was like forty-eight to fifty. Because the the the pores close up, he said it's something like forty-two degrees. So it's kept at forty-eight degrees.

 

Alex: Yeah. Interesting. Well I don't have twenty five thousand dollars to spend on a bottle, so that one's probably gonna get punted.

 

Dan: So the OHLQ did a did a a drop and you had to show up and then you know basically an in person lottery in three locations in the state. And there they did have an Eagle Rare thirty and several Eagle Rare twenty fives and a bunch of

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: Eagle Rare twenties.

 

Alex: Wow. Did you

 

Dan: And

 

Alex: get your hand that long?

 

Dan: No. I I mean I I filled out the tag and tried to get one, but the problem being it like There were a couple Eagle Rare twenty fives that lasted until the end

 

Alex: Mm.

 

Dan: because people didn't wanna just 'cause you had to pay MSRP, which for that I believe it was The Eagle Rare twenties was like twenty five hundred or five thousand and then the Eagle Rare twenty five was I believe it was ten thousand.

 

Alex: Damn. That we don't have that kind of coin.

 

Dan: Right. So then at the end there were three Eagle Rare 20s left. so then they were like, all right, high rollers. Anybody that didn't get called that wants to put their name in the hat for an Eagle Rare 20, come back up, and we had to fill out new tickets. And there was like, I I want to say there was 15 to 20 people that did and for three bottles and I did

 

Alex: Mm. Still don't get it.

 

Dan: not get picked.

 

Alex: Fucking sucks.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: I'm sorry, man.

 

Dan: That's all right. Some day, you know.

 

Alex: So done. Mm. I'm getting kinda tired.

 

Dan: Yeah. Wesley had an appointment for his diabetes, my middle son, at 825 this morning. And then the two the oldest and the youngest boy were supposed to have a a fair performance for the marching band. And then Wesley had football practice, and then I had to bring him home and cook dinner and so and now

 

Alex: Yep.

 

Dan: The US opens on for tennis. So Steph is up watching tennis and I'm gonna go up and see who won for the day and then

 

Alex: didn't win.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: Yeah, but option six, feel that. Every day. School. Kinda love it.

 

Dan: you got you guys started school already. So we don't we don't start school until after Labor Day 'cause we're where the kids go, it's a rural area.

 

Alex: They're normal.

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: Yeah, no,

 

Dan: But

 

Alex: we're in school. We've been in school for friggin' weeks, man. It's like they've already been in school for a month, it feels like. Yeah. This was good.

 

Dan: Hashtag dad life.

 

Alex: It's Rock Hill Farms. Eleven year age, eagle rare. It's on the label for everyone who wants

 

Dan: Yeah.

 

Alex: to hate. It's eleven years. I don't know. There's not a laser code on

 

Dan: This one.

 

Alex: the bottle.

 

Dan: Yeah, this one is just ten. And it says ten on the back. But still a great pick.

 

Alex: A ten. Ten.

 

Dan: Great pick by Crescent Springs Tobacco.

 

Alex: Tobacco.

 

Dan: And they do actually have they have a a it's it's just a tobacco store or liquor store. they have a really good

 

Alex: Lec a style.

 

Dan: cigar they have a really good cigar selection and they do a ton of barrel picks. And they always they always seem really good.

 

Alex: Cincinnati.

 

Dan: It's just south of Cincinnati in Kentucky. I believe it's called Florence, Kentucky, on Buttermilk Park.

 

Alex: I don't know what the plate. Yeah, I'll have to check it out. I know exactly where it is.

 

Dan: Well, thanks for doing this, bud.

 

Alex: Thanks for having me. Sorry I can't last longer. I'm tired.

 

Dan: No.

 

Alex: Ready to go to bed.

 

Dan: You're good. I appreciate it. Please like, subscribe, share. tell us what you think. Tell us what you think of what we talked about tonight as far as the Eagle Rare, the ten year, twelve year, the Rock Hill Farms.

 

Alex: Eleven year.

 

Dan: eleven year for Sir Alex.

 

Alex: Yeah.

 

Dan: And Alex, once again, thank you. do you want to give your Instagram

 

Alex: Thanks for having me.

 

Dan: or anything like that?

 

Alex: I posted it. It's just @captalex8 I just took a I took a little picture and posted to my story about us doing podcasts. So hopefully my f my my

 

Dan: Beautiful.

 

Alex: peop my people will like your people. We can all like maybe sync up into this again sometime.

 

Dan: All right.

 

Alex: Yeah, man, this is fun. Hopefully we can do that in person.

 

Dan: Sounds good, brother.

 

Alex: It'd be a lot better. But have a good night. Thanks again, man. Be safe tomorrow.

 

Dan: A, you too. Thanks, brother.

 

Alex: Yeah.

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