March 23, 2026

Nashville Barrel Co. & LGA Plane Crash; Ep. 36

Nashville Barrel Co. & LGA Plane Crash; Ep. 36
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Nashville Barrel Co. & LGA Plane Crash; Ep. 36

Bourbon, Bros, and Last Night's Plane Crash: The Great Tasting and Treacherous Skies

Ever wondered what happens when bourbon meets chaos? Join us as we sip Nashville Barrel Company’s seven-year-old cask strength bourbon while tackling a recent NYC airplane disaster. Spoiler alert: the crash isn’t the only thing that’s “electric.”

Main Topics:
Review of Nashville Barrel Company whiskey (Proof, flavor profile, and how age influences taste)
The chaos and system failures behind the LaGuardia plane crash
How infrastructure struggles with aging equipment impact safety
Tasting notes, proof, and blending bourbon with cigars
Upcoming bourbon trail adventures and travel tips
The importance of seatbelts and safety at 100+mph

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Bourbon, Bros, and Last Night's Plane Crash: The Great Tasting and Treacherous Skies

Ever wondered what happens when bourbon meets chaos? Join us as we sip Nashville Barrel Company’s seven-year-old cask strength bourbon while tackling a recent NYC airplane disaster. Spoiler alert: the crash isn’t the only thing that’s “electric.”

Main Topics:
  • Review of Nashville Barrel Company whiskey (Proof, flavor profile, and how age influences taste)
  • The chaos and system failures behind the LaGuardia plane crash
  • How infrastructure struggles with aging equipment impact safety
  • Tasting notes, proof, and blending bourbon with cigars
  • Upcoming bourbon trail adventures and travel tips
  • The importance of seatbelts and safety at 100+mph
In this episode:
  • (00:00) Introduction: Bourbon and Beyond—drinks, laughs, and a heavy dose of turbulence
  • (02:05) Nashville Barrel Company bourbon: nose, proof, and flavor insights
  • (07:00) The “Kentucky hug” and the impact of proof on flavor profile
  • (08:23) Mad dash through the NYC LaGuardia plane crash, air traffic control chaos, and infrastructure woes
  • (12:33) System failures, underfunding, and the ongoing crisis in air traffic safety
  • (16:07) The role of aging equipment and how outdated systems threaten lives
  • (18:42) Upcoming bourbon trip plans, cigar pairings, and whiskey recommendations
  • (22:39) Farewell, travel tips, and Ohio’s unpredictable spring weather
Resources & Links:
www.bourbonbrassandbeyond.com for swag and blog!

Notable Quotes:

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“It’s not the bourbon that’s the problem, it’s the system under the bourbon that’s breaking down.”
“When you’re flying at 120 proof, you better keep your seatbelt fastened.”

Action Items:

  • Explore local bourbon trails and visit small distilleries
  • Ensure safety checklists are in place for travel
  • Stay vigilant with infrastructure changes affecting safety

Happy sippin’ and safe flying, folks. Cheers!

Dan And Bob (00:00.878)
Good evening. How's everybody tonight?

It's been a day. Busy day today. Very busy day. Did a whole bunch of running around today. Kids in school, picking up. Busy day work today for me too. It's always a project. It's Monday. catch up on the weekend. I figured tonight, picked up this bottle over the weekend. We'd try this. This is the...

Nashville Barrel Company small batch straight bourbon whiskey. Cask strength, aged seven years. It was a Fred Minnick top five pick. There you go. So. Let's see if this guy knows what he's talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Figured I had to at least be interesting.

Actually, I've heard the guy from Nashville Barrel Company on a couple podcasts, and I don't, I believe he was somewhere else before Nashville Barrel Company. Okay. real good, real good guy. I'm already spilling. That's why we can't have nice things around here. That's right. It's just the first pour. 120 proof.

Mmm. Alright. Get a lot of corn. Yeah.

Dan And Bob (01:36.046)
Nice though. Yeah. I the corn, corn's a little much for me. think the corn overpowers everything. I'm not getting as much caramel. Yeah, I agree with that. Of course it could be, you know, we've been doing a lot of 90 and 95 proofs. it's just the proof is like you're smelling. Yeah, so I'm good. And I've, actually, since I knew it was a cast string, I opened it early. Let her air out a little bit. 20 minutes ago just to try to.

knock off of the ethanol. Yeah, great legs on it though. Yeah, I mean. I don't think it's all that overwhelming of a smell like I. I'll agree, it's I'm swirling it and. I think it's calming down.

Dan And Bob (02:27.694)
I'm getting a little more of the caramel now. Okay.

Dan And Bob (02:45.49)
Hello. The other side of this though, I feel like we've been doing a ton of ryes too. Right. I mean, I know it's not proof, but it's still a bite. But it's 120 proof. There's some bite to it. Yeah, I agree with that. But it doesn't have the rye bite. No.

Dan And Bob (03:10.382)
Mm.

Dan And Bob (03:15.8)
Go back to the nose, I think.

I'm still getting the corn, it's a lot more mellow now.

Dan And Bob (03:25.09)
I think it's still a lot of corn. I don't know about the mellow part. I think it's...

And of course, first drinks always that first. Yeah. yeah. When it was not snowing like this when I was walking over here. Yeah, I still can't today. yesterday I was outside in shorts and a cutoff t-shirt cleaning sticks and leaves up out of the backyard and today it's snowing. Yeah.

Dan And Bob (03:58.371)
Let me get a little bit of caramel on that.

But if it is, it's not a ton.

Little bit of that stone fruit.

Dan And Bob (04:17.688)
Mmm.

Dan And Bob (04:21.774)
So today I sent a little package down to a friend of ours in Florida to Vinny. So he's gonna get a little sample and some stickers. From there I came back and we had construction going on downstairs.

I can smell the wood when I come in. Yeah, didn't get much of a nap. Then ran to Colombiana to the One Cigar shop, left some stickers there. By the way, we got more stickers. More swag.

to give out and so less than there. And he was actually talking about doing a cigar and bourbon night. Which made me look into, okay, what bourbon goes with what cigars? And there's a whole thing on that. I didn't realize. That line up and how and. Yeah, like. Well, most of these major brands are making their own, right? They're branding their own. They're not making their own. They're branding their even so, there are certain, you don't want a,

a flavored cigar with a bourbon, because the bourbon's the flavor. That's why some of these cigar blends are so strong and powerful. It's because it's to match a strong and powerful cigar. So I went through some of the cigars that I have and just was like, okay, what is this? Chat GPT. And it's like, well, you could have that one with the Jefferson 16, or if you wanted a stronger cigar, then you should do it with this.

I'm like, all right. Chappy tea for the win? Yeah, learned a lot today. But then from there, I went down to 1820 Candle Company. wait, what? Yeah, I got Steph's Birthday gift. OK, never mind. thought you were dropping off samples to mix into a candle. No, so she's actually got a whole bunch of oils ordered. OK. So that we can sample and figure out which one. Nice. All right. And she was even talking about glasses, like.

Dan And Bob (06:39.15)
They've used rocks glasses and you can have them etched. There's a place in East Palestine that you can Can we do empty bottles? Well either empty bottles or I was thinking Glencarens. I like it. Because then they could use these to drink out of them. Afterwards, Hmm, look at you. Yeah, so work on that. Still very corny. Yeah.

Well, I mean, it's not bad. I do get the Kentucky hug with it. I get that feeling in the chest, that little bit of a hokoholi. I mean, to your point, it's not my favorite profile. mean, we've drank, we talk about drinking 90 or 100 or whatever, but two weekends ago we were drinking a ton of stuff in the 125, 130 range. I don't.

I don't necessarily put too much stock into that. I think it's just profile for me. But again, I... Is this like high-end mellocorn? I mean...

Not so mellow corn? mean, I don't. Well, mellow corn is not mellow. Right. What else? Oh, so big thing for me is been on the phone about the accident last night at LaGuardia. Crazy. I saw it right after it happened, I think. And then I saw the after effects this morning. That's crazy. Yeah. Did you I heard the traffic controller said something could be heard afterwards and I messed up.

Right, but he did try to stop the truck. Yeah But there was from what I've heard there was one air traffic controller in the tower. that's a problem It was a busy arrival time. Yeah poor weather. Yeah You guys just more understaffed. Yeah. Yeah. Well what happens is and I was explaining this earlier there it's the Swiss cheese method of Prevention right

Dan And Bob (08:50.196)
And as long as none of the holes line up with each other, nothing passes all the way through. The problem is, all right, now you have this problem of low weather, first hole, second layer, one air traffic controller, all right, third layer. The thing you don't prepare for is that an airplane had just rejected takeoff and cleared the runway. aircraft rescue,

and the firefighters are all coming out to go to that airplane to check the I was wondering why it was all the way out there, yeah. Yeah. So now that's going on off one of the crossing runways. Yep. And you have another airplane coming in and landing.

Dan And Bob (09:34.649)
So it's worst case scenario. Worst case scenario. this is what is beginning to occur. It's very similar to what happened down in DC. One air traffic controller in the tower. You've got multiple aircraft coming in. It's at night. So visibility is now distorted because you have all these lights in different places. It was wet and rainy in LaGuardia. So now you have all these lights. You don't see necessarily a fire truck coming up.

Especially when I hear 130 mile an hour, it's not like... Right, so they impacted at 100 miles per hour. So he touched down, I've seen the video from CCTV of him touching down and... Nosing into it, yeah. Yeah, and you can see the firetruck start to turn. He knew it was coming. He knew it was coming. They said the pilots died, Firemen 2? Firemen 2 passed?

I have not heard. There's been no confirmation. one I heard was that they found one of the flight attendants in the jump seat out of the plane alive and going to be OK, right? I don't know if it's going be OK. I that's so.

I had not heard it was alive, but if a flight attendant got ripped from the airplane and is alive, because if you see the pictures, the whole front is gone. I couldn't even tell how far back down the plane that thing made it. That was the part that I couldn't tell. So if you look, that's a CRJ-900, that's that type of aircraft. You can see on the wreckage with the nose up in the air. So the nose went up in the air because everybody started evacuating out of the back. So all the weight went to the back of It just sat on the tail.

Then if you look, you can see that the main cabin door and the galley door is hanging. So it took everything back to that. And that's where the flight attendant was sitting. So, I mean, if the flight attendant is alive, that is a miracle. I can't help but think that firetruck guys weigh what? 50, 60, 70,000 pounds? Yeah, those big ones. So the jolt that everybody else took up, like I'm surprised that

Dan And Bob (11:42.211)
So there were passengers that broke their noses. I'm sure off the seat. Yeah. Yeah. Cause they hit the seat in front of them so hard, which is important. This is why you your seatbelt fastened. That's why I leave that sign on into your preflight checkup. And it's why when you touch him down, make sure your seatbelt is tight across your hips. There's a reason for that.

Got that out of your system now? Yeah, just, the pictures were crazy. I can't imagine. So, but something's got to, something's got to happen. know, listen, when the one, what was it? The facts or whoever it was, UPS, it was taken off and lost engines like that. I think that that's a different situation, but still you combine all of these. This is quite a few air traffic, airplane related tragedies.

really, really close together. Like it's been too much. So, yeah. I think with the UPS one, you know, was a part that faulted after 40 years of use. Yeah. And in an airplane that was designed to be a passenger airplane converted to cargo, you know, so he was at max gross weight going to Hawaii. Fully loaded with fuel. Yeah. I think the DCA crash.

where they hit the helicopter. that was DC, right? Yeah. And then this crash. is a failure in the system. Yeah. And it keeps reappearing. Yeah. have, sooner or you're going to call a, we're going to figure this out situation. Right. And I think we talked about this, that there was a ton of air traffic control spots, like jobs open. That's a tough job.

Like, well, look, with the government shutdown, the first government shut down, they weren't getting paid, right? They weren't getting paid. That's what I thought. So there were a bunch of controllers that actually took retirement. Yeah. You know, because there were a bunch of controllers that took the buyout. Yeah. So we're already short. Yep. And now they can't.

Dan And Bob (13:56.911)
replace them fast enough. They had the whole nightmare debacle with the Newark Approach. They actually took Newark Approach was in the New York Approach Control Center. But they were always short staffed in having to pay overtime. So their fix for this was to split it off, move it and force those controllers to move to Philadelphia. Which is just as busy.

But none of the Philadelphia controllers want to be trained on the Newark system because they went from like 20 some controllers and they were already short to now they have like 16 or 17. So now it's even worse. Anybody that works Newark Approach is miserable. So now they're on a skeleton crew. They had to use old landlines to wire to the Philadelphia.

And they were using like the emergency tractor trailer, you know, for air traffic control. It's like tractor trailer and trailer. But then they were wiring it into where the... So that way they had seats. I mean... This is between... This is infrastructure problem to me. Yes. We talk about bridges and roads and this is an infrastructure problem. Train, whatever else. mean, for that matter, we're not that all that far from East Palestine. I just saw they were...

checks started finally just now going out. That's the part, these are infrastructure problems. Eventually we've gotta start figuring this part out. I always say the teachers and police are always habitually underpaid. There's another group that guess you can add to that list. It is a valuable commodity. These people are trained to handle things that...

I mean, they've already shown that it would kill most people. I mean, just the stress, the workload, the mental. Being able to keep heads and tails of that many flights and. Yeah. I don't.

Dan And Bob (16:07.246)
I mean, all right, I've been in the airlines for 26 years. And this trend is now. Accelerating. Yeah, and catching my eye. Yeah. Because there is no fix around the corner. No, yeah. This next generation air traffic control was supposed to happen 30 years ago. we're still using equipment that is 45 years old. Yeah.

Tough? It is tough. Scary. And now we've got two people dead. Yeah. And I don't blame the air traffic controller. I don't, I know, I think that fire truck asked for crossing clearance and then it took forever. Yeah, that's could be, yeah. And trust me in LaGuardia, it's two and a half miles spacing. And when two and a half miles goes really quick at 145, 150 miles per hour. Yeah.

So you don't have much time. Like when you go to cross that runway, you have to be on. And I think that that fire truck took so long that he turned and he's dealing with the other emergency that happened. You can't possibly. Especially if you're by your cell phone, by the way. Yeah, and you're already dealing with one emergency. You check off, when you finish one project, you check it off and move on to the next. And you just figured that that fire truck made it.

It's tough. And then when he turned back around, cause he had another. Somebody else coming in behind it. So I don't blame him. I blame the system on this. Scary. Yeah. So Godspeed to the crew. I hope everybody else is all right.

but now I'm off my soap box now. Nashville Barrel Company. Nashville Barrel Company. Yep. Hope you like corn. Yeah, after letting this out, I come back to it. Listen, I think the nose is okay on it. don't, don't, it's got quite a bit of bite on it though. And I don't think it's proof that I'm biting on there. So.

Dan And Bob (18:27.246)
I think to me this tastes like it is a lot younger than seven years. Yeah. Yeah.

Dan And Bob (18:39.821)
Interesting.

Yeah. Cool.

Dan And Bob (18:49.518)
Yeah, I guess we know. Well, what else we got going on?

Dan And Bob (18:57.112)
it's a big week. What now? So Thursday, I'm having dinner. yeah, yeah, yeah. With Wally Dent and Bill Samuel. That's very cool. And I'm super excited about that. That's gonna be great. Yeah. And then coming back Friday, and then on Sunday, we are gonna do a podcast with

Jason from Cleveland Barrelhunters. It's coming down. Yeah, thanks So he's gonna bring down his latest pick. Okay. That's very cool. Yeah, that'll be saying out. Yeah So this is gonna be a huge huge. Yeah, busy week. It was busy week We got our shirts in. Yeah, so there Some swag that's on the website if you anybody wants a shirt got the stickers on the website, you know, if anybody wants any stickers

They can order those and moving right along. Yeah. Yeah. Just gotta keep grinding. Keep grinding.

And I, if there's anybody who would like to try this one, stop on by. Stop on by.

Dan And Bob (20:20.076)
Yeah, I'm not. Yeah. Not my favorite. Not horrible. No.

Fred must've been busy with his book tour. Well, it says 2023 though. Did you see that? 2023. it's 2023. Yeah. So it's been around for a while then.

Dan And Bob (20:43.97)
Huh. Well.

There you have it. There you have it. Nashville Barrel Company. They're putting in a new place in Louisville. I think it's called the Louisville Rick House. Okay. But they're going to have barrel picks and stuff there. It's down by the Cuban restaurant. Okay.

Dan And Bob (21:13.358)
So that should be interesting. if anybody has any recommendations, I've got to plan a Kentucky Cincinnati, Louisville. So we're going to the Cincinnati Open the last couple days of that for tennis, for Steph. So the first part of the week, we're gonna spend four days doing a couple places on the Bourbon Trail.

coming back up to Cincinnati, hitting the tennis tournament, coming home. So if anybody's got any recommendations for a four day, not wanting to run from place to place to place. Go crazy hard. Yeah. Yeah. think, I think we're gonna do Heaven Hills. Probably stop by Logs still. gotta stop by Logs. it's close. Yeah. And then do Heaven Hills up to Bardstown, maybe stay at the

hold in in Bardstown and then make a way up to Frankfurt and Louisville. Nice. That way. But looking forward Find your way through it, yeah. Start booking tours. Well, April 1st. That's what I'm waiting on. April 1st is when those tours start opening up. So yeah, if anybody's got any recommendations, I like...

being able to find some bottles down there. So I know there are certain tours you have to do in order to be able to buy the better bottles. So which tours are those? That's what I need to know. Be a good trip. Very cool. Off to another week. Well, thanks for watching. Stay warm as our temperature has dropped 55 degrees in less than 24 hours.

I hate Ohio, why don't I do it to myself? Welcome to spring. Daffodils are up and they're all freezing right now. That's right. That's right. Have a good night. Thanks for watching. Everybody have a good night.

Dan And Bob (23:22.799)
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